Beta Rad & Positron/Electron - Radioactive Decay

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors determining whether a beta particle emitted during radioactive decay is a positron or an electron. It explores the conditions under which beta-minus and beta-plus decays occur, including mass differences and stability considerations of nuclei.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the emission type (positronic or electronic) depends on which of the two final nuclei has a smaller mass than the initial nucleus, with the mass difference providing the necessary energy.
  • One participant presents conditions for beta-minus decay, stating that the Q-value must be greater than zero, involving the masses of the initial and final nuclei.
  • Another participant outlines conditions for beta-plus decay, indicating that the mass of the atom before decay must exceed the mass after decay by at least two electron masses, plus an additional energy threshold.
  • It is proposed that the mass defect influences whether a nucleus is radioactive, with positron emitters located above the stability line and beta emitters below it on a nuclide chart.
  • One participant introduces the concept of electron capture, noting that at certain masses, this process may become more likely than positron emission, resulting in a decrease in atomic number.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms and conditions for beta decay, with no consensus reached on the primary determinants of emission type.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mass conditions and energy thresholds without resolving the implications of these factors or their interdependencies. The discussion includes various models and interpretations of stability and decay processes.

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During radioactive decay, what determines if the emission of a beta particle will be positronic or electronic?
 
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It depends on which of the two final nuclei has a smaller mass than the initial nucleus. The mass difference provides the energy for the electron and antineutrino (or positron and neutrino).
 
For beta-minus decay the following condition must be fulfilled:
Q \approx [m_{at}(Z,A)-m_{at}(Z+1,A)]c^2 > 0

with
Q: Q-value
m_{at}(Z,A): mass of the atom before beta-minus decay
m_{at}(Z+1,A): mass of the atom after beta-minus decayFor beta-plus decay the following condition must be fulfilled:

Q \approx [m_{at}(Z,A)-m_{at}(Z-1,A)]c^2-1.022 \rm{MeV} > 0

with
Q: Q-value
m_{at}(Z,A): mass of the atom before beta-plus decay
m_{at}(Z-1,A): mass of the atom after beta-plus decay
1.022 \rm{MeV}: two times the electron (or positron) mass

Thus, for beta-plus decay the mass of the atom before decay
must be at least two electron masses greater than after the decay.
 
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3trQN said:
During radioactive decay, what determines if the emission of a beta particle will be positronic or electronic?
The mass defect determines if a nuclei is radioactive, i.e. will decay spontaneously.

If one looks at a chart of the nuclides arranged with mass on the abscissa and nuclear charge (atomic number, Z) on the ordinate, then the positron emitters are above the stability line, while the beta emitters are below the stability line. The positron emitters have an excess of protons, while the beta emitters have an excess of neutrons, or conversely a deficiency of protons.

At a certain mass, the process (phenomenon) of electron capture (EC)becomes more likely than positron emission. In EC, an K-shell (1s) electron is 'captured' by the nucleus and a proton is transformed into a neutron. The effect is the same as positron emission - Z decreases by 1.
 

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