Medical Bloody Stool: Causes, Treatment, and When to Seek Medical Help

[Danger]

It seems a rather snap decision on your doctor's part if she only did a urine sample

Agreed, particularly since that wasn't the orifice in question.
Bioquest, if you take a gander at Evo's and Moonbear's member photos (in General Discussion), you will see that they most assuredly are not guys. Astro is definitely male, but there is some dispute as to his species.

 

[DaveC426913]

well apparently that's all totally normal according to my doctor, vomiting often accompanies cramps, etc and it's just menstraul blood, like she did a urine test

Did you tell your doctor all the things you told us? The blood in the stool, etc.?

 

[bioquest]

It's not blood IN the stool but like there is blood SURROUNDING the stool and when I am in the bathtub and I fart I fart blood, but like I believe that when I go to the bathroom during my period, I am ****ting out blood but not bloody stool (like I'll look down and there will be **** surronded by blood and I think if I remember this happens when I'm not urinating as well. I mean I'm not peeing out blood and then going "oh why is there blood surrounding my stool) (This blood whenever I go to the bathroom starts off greater in amount in the beginning and then lessens) I shouldn't have named the thread blood *in* poop I meant like, but anyways...so if the stool itself isn't bloody...does that mean I'm okay or what?

So I mean I guess one question is: Is it coming out my anus or isn't it, am I crazy but I think it is because like I said if I happen to be having a nice relaxing bath with whatever scented stuff I can grab, sleeping in the bath, you know, girling out, but I fart, out comes blood (noticeable blood) so I mean...that combined with the fact that I think it's coming out of me when I go to the bathroom makes me think it's coming out of my anus. If it was just when I was going to the bathoom, I suppose you could argue that somehow bloody stuff was coming out of my vagina which could possibly be mistaken for coming out of my anus but I just, I don't think so because when I go to wipe there's a lot of blood and barely any **** but again this stuff is only during my period

I'm thinking of going to the medical clinic up the road I don't think the doctor I saw was a very good doctor and yes I mean I tried to talk to my doctor but all she would say was like, the anus and the vagina are close together and this is normal and did a urine test and said there wasn't blood in my urine (My period is over now, so I obviously should have gone there when I had my period so she could tell me if there was blood in my urine)

So maybe I just need to wait until the next time I have my period to go to the doctor

 

[Moonbear]

well apparently that's all totally normal according to my doctor, vomiting often accompanies cramps, etc and it's just menstraul blood, like she did a urine test and there was no blood in it (My period's over now) So I'm fine, just really ****ing pissed still, for some reason and sleepy

If you only experience the symptoms while you have your period, and don't have your period now, how does the doctor expect a urine test to tell her anything right now? Did she even listen to your description of the symptoms? I suggest scheduling an appointment with a different doctor (one who takes time to listen to your symptoms) when you are actually due to be having your period, so they can evaluate the symptoms when they are present. I mean, there is a possibility that just excessive menstrual bleeding is making it hard to discern where the blood is coming from, but even so, it would be best to have that checked while you have your period to make sure that's all it is. Your description sounds like more than that, though.

I mean you are all guys right? It would be interesting/useful to get a girl's opinion on this?

Nope, I'm female. My field of research is in reproductive biology too.

When you're describing dark blood on your pad, that could be blood clots. If you get a lot of that, it can indicate a problem with excessive bleeding, but just a little of that isn't necessarily abnormal. So, at least that's one thing you might not have to worry so much about.

 

[Moonbear]

So I mean I guess one question is: Is it coming out my anus or isn't it, am I crazy but I think it is because like I said if I happen to be having a nice relaxing bath with whatever scented stuff I can grab, sleeping in the bath, you know, girling out, but I fart, out comes blood (noticeable blood) so I mean...that combined with the fact that I think it's coming out of me when I go to the bathroom makes me think it's coming out of my anus. If it was just when I was going to the bathoom, I suppose you could argue that somehow bloody stuff was coming out of my vagina which could possibly be mistaken for coming out of my anus but I just, I don't think so because when I go to wipe there's a lot of blood and barely any **** but again this stuff is only during my period

Here's a suggestion that should give you an answer once and for all (smacking my forehead for not thinking to suggest it sooner)...next time you have your period, try switching to using tampons instead of sanitary napkins, even if just the first few days of your period when you say you notice these symptoms. Once the tampon is inserted, clean yourself very well externally, and then see if you still have blood in the toilet the next time you use the bathroom with the tampon in place. This will ensure you're not confusing normal menstrual blood exiting the vagina and spreading elsewhere externally with blood coming from another part of your body.

 

[Danger]

(smacking my forehead for not thinking to suggest it sooner

Save a smack for me; I didn't think of that either. (That's pretty damned embarrassing in retrospect. )

 

[Evo]

I thought about it, but thought they would realize the difference. Never assume anything.

 

[bioquest]

I think when the dark blood was on the pad that was blood I farted (it was definately blood) (Although having the dark blood was awhile ago)
I mean I'm definately farting blood during my periods, I can tell from my pads and when I'm in the bath etc
Anyways I think I'll just go when I get my next period

 

[hypatia]

Time to find a new doctor.

 

[bioquest]

well I think if I went somewhere at the beginning of my period pissed blood and said "here's a urine sample" that would get her/somebody's attention

 

[Moonbear]

well I think if I went somewhere at the beginning of my period pissed blood and said "here's a urine sample" that would get her/somebody's attention

I agree, and think that's the best approach to getting a proper diagnosis.

 

[rjbig2000]

I am a newby to this forum and hope that I am not out of line responding to your post. I definitely agree that you should seek the help of a qualified medical professional. Find someone you are comfortable with. Evo mentioned Ulcerative Colitis and Crohn's Disease. These conditions can cause a problem where material can pass from Colon to Urinary track and possibly vice versa. Crohn's Disease is becoming more and more common in people your age. Do you get stomach cramps after eating fatty or greasy foods? Do you experience excessive itching? Do you change your diet during your periods. Do you now or have you in the past used Acetaminophen(Tylenol)regularly or in large quantities. Crohn's is believed to be an auto-immune problem. It is believed that the body's immune system attacks the lining of the intestine. This attack causes some bleeding. This blood can sometimes be found in your stool. Most often this is dark colored(like a scab). For most Crohn's suffers the symptoms come and go. Stress does seem to be one of the things that seem to trigger a flare up in many suffers. My mother is suffering from this condition as well as many people that I know. Spinach is really good for all of us. Apples are also very good. Fresh fruits and vegetables appear to help a lot. Reduce your intake of salt. There is salt in everything. Lots of it! And we all eat too much salt. Please check out this website at the National Institute of Health. digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/crohns/
If you think that you are experiencing the symptoms they describe mention that to your Doctor. This problem is OFTEN not properly diagnosed until it has already done serious damage. However with a good diet and exercise it is manageable. Knowledge is power. Please check the site and Find a Doctor that you are comfortable with and can trust. I respect you for having the courage to talk about this. Now just screw up your courage and go find a good Doctor! I know this may sound weird but we should all be looking at our stools/urine after using the restroom. By doing this you know what it should look like and can notice any difference quickly. Be mindful that what you eat will affect your stool. Don't freak after eating a bunch of oreo's! Good Luck and Eat Healthy!

 

[Moonbear]

Crohn's also does often take a while to get properly diagnosed, but that's because there are a number of other conditions that can produce similar symptoms, so it takes time to rule out those other conditions before a definitive diagnosis can be made. Ulcerative colitis is frequently confused with Crohn's, and unfortunately, the differential diagnosis for Crohn's pretty much is that the patient doesn't respond to treatment for ulcerative colitis.

 

[bioquest]

I'm just going to use a tampon next time I have my period and see where the blood is coming from I've never used them before so I might get a friend to talk to me about them/show me how to use them beforehand

 

[bioquest]

I'm just going to use a tampon next time I have my period and see where the blood is coming from I've never used them before so I might get a friend to talk to me about them/show me how to use them beforehand

I mean I think a large amount of blood is coming from my ass, but it's not in the stool, so

Um I don't know why it didn't just edit the first post

Would hemmorhoids/internal stuff like that show up on an exray?

 

[Evo]

Would hemmorhoids/internal stuff like that show up on an exray?

I doubt it.

Hemmorhoids can bleed a LOT. But I don't see the relationship to menstrual cycles.

 

[Invictious]

If a hemorrhoid is already ... umm.. 'ruptured?', then it the surface of it is weakened by a great deal. Passing gas forcefully (not that much force required) or egestion can cause the hemorrhoid to rupture, so it seems like you are 'farting' blood or you have blood on stools.

I think it might just be hemorrhoids, and it CAN be visible in some cases. Remember, a hemorrhoids are varicosities and inflammation of veins in the anal area. So as said by Evo, it CAN bleed quite a substantial amount (although it wouldn't be enough to cause shock or something, hehe).

 

[bioquest]

Why would it only show up during my period though?

And would the hemmorhoids show up on an exray or anything?

 

[Kurdt]

I think Moonbear has mentioned Endometriosis. From what you describe (e.g. heavy periods and vomiting during period pains) that seems to fit except normally the extra tissue is not excreted through the anus and its normally something that occurs in older women. But it would tie in with the menstrual cycle.

Like others I hope you will go to a different GP again until you get this sorted.

 

[rjbig2000]

Why would it only show up during my period though?

And would the hemmorhoids show up on an exray or anything?

Some of the items we have mentioned might show up during period because of stress and such during these times

 

[bioquest]

I mean would anything like a tumor or anything like that show up on an xray?

What is vomiting + ****ting blood symptoms of normally? (Period aside. Even though it only happens during my period)

I'm going to go see my doctor when it starts again

 

[DaveC426913]

I mean would anything like a tumor or anything like that show up on an xray?

What is vomiting + ****ting blood symptoms of normally? (Period aside. Even though it only happens during my period)

I'm going to go see my doctor when it starts again

I think you should find another doctor, and I think you should find one before your next period, to give them time to assess you.

 

[Invictious]

I mean would anything like a tumor or anything like that show up on an xray?

What is vomiting + ****ting blood symptoms of normally? (Period aside. Even though it only happens during my period)

I'm going to go see my doctor when it starts again

As said, endometriosis is also a possibility, or it can even be a combination of several conditions, if you are unlucky enough.

How long till your next one?

 

[Moonbear]

I think Moonbear has mentioned Endometriosis. From what you describe (e.g. heavy periods and vomiting during period pains) that seems to fit except normally the extra tissue is not excreted through the anus and its normally something that occurs in older women. But it would tie in with the menstrual cycle.

Actually, endometriosis can begin in younger women as well. Usually, endometriosis is limited to endometrial tissue growing on the wrong side of the uterus, and is associated with very painful periods. However, it seems that tissue can migrate elsewhere in the abdominal cavity as well, and given a chance, can infiltrate the gut and bladder/urethra. Given a history of pelvic infections due to stress at a fairly young age, it makes even more sense that this tissue could have infiltrated via damage the infection caused.

I mean would anything like a tumor or anything like that show up on an xray?

A large tumor would, but small ones might not on a regular x-ray. They'd probably want to scope you with your symptoms, to see what it is that's bleeding and biopsy it (even with endometriosis, they'd want to do that to confirm the diagnosis).

What is vomiting + ****ting blood symptoms of normally? (Period aside. Even though it only happens during my period)

It can be a LOT of things. Several have already been mentioned: bleeding ulcers, Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, tumors. A parasitic infestation could do it too. If it was just those two symptoms and not recurring every time you have your period, it could include other things like a bacterial infection that has severely irritated your gut lining (i.e., E. coli), or an internal injury.

I'm going to go see my doctor when it starts again

I think that's the best plan of action.

 

[bioquest]

its the beginning of my period and only blood is coming out when I pee so I saved a sample
So you're saying that's not normal?
because last time I went at the end of my period and they said there was no blood in my urine, and it's not coming out of my ass, but there is a lot of blood

 

[Tsu]

Take the sample with you to the emergency room. GO NOW! Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200. Leave immediately. NOW! GO!

 

[larkspur]

its the beginning of my period and only blood is coming out when I pee so I saved a sample
So you're saying that's not normal?
because last time I went at the end of my period and they said there was no blood in my urine, and it's not coming out of my ass, but there is a lot of blood

Did you have a tampon in when you urinated? If not, try again with a tampon in and see if you get the same results.

 

[bioquest]

well I mean I could see myself peeing blood and it going in the container I don't use tampons but I was able to check that the blood wasn't coming out of my ass (Which is what I originally though)
I took the sample in but she said it wasn't airtight, I'd have to use one of their sample containers (by the time I went in it was like mid-day the next day and that was the night before) Basically I'm only peeing blood at the beginning of my period/having heavier/more blood at the beginning of my period so. by the time I went there I was urinating normal pee (although i did not get it "checked" to see if blood was in it). I guess if I'm really concerned about it I'll just go to the doctor's the first day I start my period and pee in one of their containers. She said that pee and blood often get mixed in together. I got checked at the end of my period before to see if there was blood in my urine and there wasn't. She suggested getting checked mid cycle to see if there was blood in my urine. I am not so concerned about the amount of blood, just whether or not I'm peeing blood during my periods, and how frequently. I mean obviously some periods are going to be heavier than others. I hate period pain because I vomit and feel physical pain when I have it (Maybe I'm just more sensitive to period pain) but if I take painkillers beforehand I'm fine but apparently that stuff can be normal with periods. It's probably just making me more likely to think something's wrong

also I idiotically put two urine samples in the same container, the first was blood the 2nd was pee, so the blood made all of the urine look bloody

and can I even pee with a tampon in? I would rather just avoid using tampons even if they are more hygenic. I mean there is that toxic shock syndrome too people can get from tampons

 

[larkspur]

and can I even pee with a tampon in? I would rather just avoid using tampons even if they are more hygenic.

Yes, the urethra(the hole you pee from) is a completely different hole from the vagina(the hole you menstruate from.) Having a tampon in the vagina does not block the urethra.

You don't have to leave the tampon in for any longer than it takes for you to clean yourself up and urinate again. Then you can take the tampon out. This short amount of time won't be long enough to develop toxic shock. Don't use a super tampon just a regular one.

 

[Evo]

Bioquest, a tampon is inserted into your vagina, which is were the menstrual bood will come from. Your urethra is near the vagina, so when you urinate, the menstrual blood will mix with the urine and appear to have blood in it.

Correct insertion of a tampon into the vagina will not interrupt urination.

Are you close to your mother or other female relative or teacher that you can talk to about menstruation?

Here is a link that will show you the female anatomy. You can see how close the urethra (for urine) and the vagina are.

If you don't have anyone close to you that you feel comfortable discussing such things with. Tell your doctor that you need basic information on your urinary tract and menstruation.

Let me find a less graphic example.