Bosons: What Do They Do and How Do They Act?

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The discussion revolves around the roles and behaviors of various bosons, including photons, W and Z bosons, gluons, and the Higgs boson, within the framework of fundamental forces in physics. Participants explore concepts related to electromagnetism, the strong and weak nuclear forces, and the nature of mass in relation to these particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the role of gluons in nuclear forces and expresses confusion about how bosons act and their mass properties.
  • Another participant explains that gluons mediate the strong force, while W and Z bosons carry the weak force, and clarifies that the Higgs boson does not mediate gravitational force.
  • A different participant elaborates on the characteristics of bosons, noting that photons are massless and travel at light speed, while gluons carry their own color charge and can interact with each other, leading to unique behaviors like asymptotic freedom.
  • Several participants correct earlier statements regarding the mass of gluons, with one asserting that gluons are massless, while another acknowledges a typo in their previous post about gluons having mass.
  • One participant emphasizes the significance of gluons carrying color charge, which influences their behavior differently compared to photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the mass of gluons, with conflicting statements regarding whether they are massless or have mass. Participants generally agree on the roles of different bosons in mediating forces but express uncertainty about specific properties and behaviors.

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Participants express confusion regarding the definitions and properties of bosons, particularly in relation to mass and interactions. The discussion includes corrections and clarifications that highlight the complexity of the topic.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in particle physics, particularly those seeking to understand the roles of bosons and the fundamental forces they mediate.

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Another probably very retarded question I am affraid.Ive only recently been studying all this of my own back so please bare with me. Firstly as i understand it a Photon carries electromagnatism Z and W Bosons carry the strong and weak nuclear forces and the Higgs boson is the missing gravity carrier then what exactly does the Gluon do? Does it have something to do with the nuclear forces? My next question is how does a boson exactly act? To be honest I am a little confused...does it has any sort of mass, does it sort of attach itself to other particles? This maybe a bit of a stupid question i understand just need some guidence please.
 
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The photon, Z, and the two W bosons carry the Electroweak charge, of these the photon is massless. The others have mass as the Weak force is range limited. The Gluon carries the Strong force that hold things like Protons and Neutrons together. The Higgs field via the Higgs boson gives some particles their mass (like the Z and W above) but does not carry the Gravitational force. Gravitation is not included in the Standard Model which governs these three forces.
 
Cosmik debris is right: the gluon mediates the strong force while the W and Z bosons carry the weak force (and photons carry the EM force). The Higgs boson is involved in a process that sets a mass for certain particles, but it does not mediate the gravitational force--if the gravitational force were like the other forces, it would be mediated by something called a "graviton".

Bosons are quite varied. The most familiar one is the photon, which hopefully you have a feel for. It is massless and therefore travels relativistically (i.e. at c), and it does not interact (directly) with other photons, but couples with electromagnetic charges. Thus we observe the typical behavior of photons: they are readily generated in the processes of electrically charged particles and fly at light speed, typically unhindered, until they come into contact with some more electrically charged particles.

Compare this with another boson, the graviton: it has a mass so it travels nonrelativistically (i.e. below c), and it couples to the color charge. Unlike the photon, the gluon actually carries its own color charge (a photon has zero electrical charge), so unlike photons, gluons can interact directly with other gluons. This leads to a phenomenon where pulling apart two gluons creates more and more gluons, and can even create quark-antiquark pairs (these processes can be interpreted in terms of "gluon bundles" or "quark-gluon plasmas"), and so the force gets stronger and stronger the more you try to separate two gluons (see "asymptotic freedom"), unlike any electromagnetic interaction.

Just from the stark differences between photons and gluons, you can begin to see that bosons can have all different kinds of properties.
 
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Oops! I made a really stupid typo in the last post. In the third paragraph, I should have said
Compare this with another boson, the gluon: it has a mass so it travels nonrelativistically (i.e. below c), and it couples to the color charge.
I hope that's clear from the rest of the paragraph. Gotta get my g's straight.
 
Jolb said:
Oops! I made a really stupid typo in the last post. In the third paragraph, I should have said
Compare this with another boson, the gluon: it has a mass so it travels nonrelativistically (i.e. below c), and it couples to the color charge.
I hope that's clear from the rest of the paragraph. Gotta get my g's straight.
Actually the gluon is massless.
 
Bill_K said:
Actually the gluon is massless.
You are right. I seriously screwed that post up, sorry.
 
But you got the important part right. The gluon carries colour charge and therefore couples to its self.

To me the most important part. As this is why it is "strong" and defines how its behaviour changes with energy in a completely different way to the photon.
 

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