Bouncing charged ball experiment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a proposed experiment involving a metal ball bouncing between two charged plates, one positively charged and the other negatively charged. Participants explore the mechanics of the ball's motion, the effects of charging, and the implications of gravity on the experiment. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical applications of the concept.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the experiment where a metal ball is placed between two charged plates, suggesting that the ball will bounce between them, gaining and losing charge with each collision.
  • Another participant identifies the experiment as a variation on an electric pendulum, noting that the collision does not need to be perfectly elastic and that voltage can be adjusted to maintain the motion.
  • A participant explains that gravity causes the ball to hit the lower plate harder than the upper plate, acknowledging the influence of gravitational force on the experiment.
  • Some participants express interest in trying the experiment and mention the existence of similar demonstrations available online.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic mechanics of the proposed experiment and the influence of gravity. However, there is no consensus on the practical execution or the specific name of the experiment.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve potential limitations related to the assumptions about the elasticity of collisions, the effects of varying voltage, or the specific setup required for the experiment.

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Individuals interested in experimental physics, electric fields, and mechanics may find this discussion relevant and engaging.

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Hello, I would like to share a cool experiment... but not yet experimented for me.
Suppose you have a ball of metal between two plates.
The upper plate is charged - and the lower plate is charged +
There is constant potential between the plates.
When the ball touches the lower plate, it charges positively and it follows the electrical field in the upward direction. Then it bounces against the negative plate.
Let's suppose we have an elastic collision here. At the collision, the ball loses its charge and becomes negative. At the same time, the negative plate is connected to a constant potential putting positive charges away.
After bouncing, the ball will go downwards and continue to accelerate because now it has taken a negative charge. Then it bounces on the lower plate, etc. etc.
At the end the ball would bounce really quickly and frequently between the plates.

Is this true?
Does this experiment have a name? I would like to call it mine otherwise...
 
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Welcome to PF;
It's a variation on an electric pendulum.
The collision does not need to be very elastic - the voltage can be adjusted to compensate.

The ball touches the -ve plate becoming negative, it is attracted to the +ve plate, touches it, becomes positive, now it is attracted to the negative plate, and back and forth it goes :) it's be at a pretty steady rate.

I've seen it done on a track as well.

If you do it vertically, then the ball will hit the bottom plate harder than the top plate - do you see why?
If you build it, you should find some way to confine the ball - put it in a clear tube or something - so it won't bounce away on you.
 
It's much clear now. I know why the ball hits harder the bottom, it's because of gravity :)
Thanks for the information.
 
Very cool experiment. I would like to try it sometime.
 
There are lots of examples on youtube ... doing vertically would be trickier but adds an extra eye-warp to it if the all you see is the ball bouncing between "floor" and "ceiling". It would make it look like this:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#bbe​
lounge4.gif

 

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