Bra-ket notation and qubit issue.

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of bra-ket notation in quantum computing, specifically focusing on the concept of superposition and the application of quantum gates. Participants explore the implications of representing qubit states and the mathematical operations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the transformation of qubit states using the function Uf and the meaning of the operation \oplus in the context of quantum states.
  • Another participant questions the definition of superposition and how the expression 1/\sqrt{2}(|0> - |1>) represents a superposition, seeking clarification on the underlying principles.
  • A different participant references notes by Preskill, suggesting that superposition involves overlapping states treated as vectors in a Hilbert space, and discusses the normalization factor in relation to perpendicular states.
  • There is a discussion about whether the states |0> and |1> are considered perpendicular, with one participant affirming this and linking it to the properties of eigenstates of self-adjoint operators.
  • Participants inquire about the relationship between superpositions and probability densities, with one questioning the relevance of probability density in this context.
  • Concerns are raised about the dimensionality of the space involved, contrasting finite-dimensional qubit states with infinite-dimensional wave functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the perpendicularity of the states |0> and |1> and their representation as eigenstates. However, there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the definition of superposition and its implications, as well as the relationship between superposition and probability densities.

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Participants reference various definitions and interpretations of superposition, which may depend on specific contexts or sources. There are unresolved questions regarding the mathematical treatment of states and the implications of dimensionality in quantum mechanics.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in quantum computing, quantum mechanics, and the mathematical formalism of quantum states, particularly those seeking clarification on bra-ket notation and superposition concepts.

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I am having trouble understanding the following:

Uf: |x>|y> → |x>|y \oplusf(x)>

\oplus being a mod 2 operation (nand)? I suppose I don't understand how to read the "ket" states so well. As far as I understand we have that since x and y can be 0,1 only if |x=1>|y=1> then if f(x) = 1 then |y \oplus f(x)> would come out to be → |1>|0>

but the main part is that if we are dealing with a quantum computer then we can chose the input state to the a superposition of |0> and |1>. That if the second qubit is initially prepared in the state 1/\sqrt{2}(|0> - |1> then... The issue is with this equation in that how does |0> - |1> mean superposition? This is the part of the bra-ket notation that I don't understand
 
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Relative0 said:
the main part is that if we are dealing with a quantum computer then we can chose the input state to the a superposition of |0> and |1>. That if the second qubit is initially prepared in the state 1/\sqrt{2}(|0> - |1> then... The issue is with this equation in that how does |0> - |1> mean superposition? This is the part of the bra-ket notation that I don't understand
What definition of superposition do you use then?

If you want to apply your gate U to a superposition |x1 y1>+|x2 y2>, you can simply apply it to each term because of the linearity of U. So U(|x1 y1>+|x2 y2>) = U|x1 y1> + U|x2 y2>
 
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Thanks kith. Well as far as superposition goes - I am not quite sure of the definition he (Preskill) is using in his Notes: www.theory.caltech.edu/people/preskill/ph229/notes/book.ps‎

I am guessing just some sort of overlap of states that is treated as a vector space. I say this as he talks about states being "ray's" in a Hilbert space. That these rays are vectors. He does say that every ray corresponds to a possible state so that given two spaces |θ>, |ψ> we can create a state a|θ> + b|ψ> by the superposition principle as he puts it (Pg. 38).

Is it just that the states |0> and |1> are perpendicular and thus 1/sqrt(2) is the normalization? I.e. in 2-D Euclidean space we would have 1x + 0y being denoted as |0> and 0x + 1y as |1> hence the distance between them is sqrt((1-0)^2 + (0-1)^2) = sqrt(2)?

He has something similar where |cat> = 1/sqrt(2) \cdot |dead> + |alive> so since these are distinct (can't be both dead and alive) we have that they are perpendicular hence the normalization of 1/sqrt(2).

I suppose I am looking for a better understanding of |0> + |1>. are these indeed considered perpendicular? But furthermore I am somehow looking at a probability density in |0> and |1> respectively? So I would be looking at some sort of superposition of two perpendicular waves?

Thanks,

Brian
 
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Relative0 said:
I.e. in 2-D Euclidean space we would have 1x + 0y being denoted as |0> and 0x + 1y as |1> hence the distance between them is sqrt((1-0)^2 + (0-1)^2) = sqrt(2)?
Yes.

Relative0 said:
I suppose I am looking for a better understanding of |0> + |1>. are these indeed considered perpendicular?
Yes. |0> and |1> are eigenstates of a certain self-adjoint operator which corresponds to a physical quantity (usually spin). Such eigenstates have the property of being perpendicular.

Relative0 said:
But furthermore I am somehow looking at a probability density in |0> and |1> respectively?
Why a probability density? Do you know how probabilities are related to superpositions? Do you know the postulates of QM?

Relative0 said:
So I would be looking at some sort of superposition of two perpendicular waves?
Waves belong to infinite-dimensional spaces while our space is two-dimensional.
 

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