Brakes, static equilibrium problem is my Free Body Diagram correct?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a static equilibrium problem related to calculating the minimal force of brakes during the stopping of a wheel. Participants are examining the correctness of a Free Body Diagram (FBD) and the relevance of specific distances in the context of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the purpose of the radius and distance "a" in their calculations and questions the correctness of their equations and diagram.
  • Another participant suggests that two separate diagrams are necessary: one for the lever and one for the wheel, emphasizing the importance of a well-drawn FBD.
  • A participant acknowledges forgetting to include a specific force (Fb) in their FBD, attributing their misunderstanding to this oversight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the importance of accurately drawing the Free Body Diagram and the necessity of considering multiple diagrams for the problem. However, there is no consensus on the correctness of the initial diagram or the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the relevance of specific forces and distances in the context of taking moments, but the discussion does not resolve the initial confusion regarding the calculations or the diagram's accuracy.

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Homework Statement



Calculate minimal force P of the brakes during the stopping of the wheel.

[PLAIN]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6017/problemzy.jpg


Solution is P=34.3 [N]

Homework Equations



(Written on scan above)

The Attempt at a Solution



[PLAIN]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5720/problemtry.jpg

My great confusion is what is the purpose of the radius and what is the purpose of distance a? Are my equations and diagram even correct? I'm not getting the written result...
 
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Hi Dory! :smile:
Dory said:
...is my Free Body Diagram correct?

hmm … this is a very good example why it is very important to draw a good free body diagram …

in this case you must draw two diagrams … one for the lever, and one for the wheel

the relevance of the distance "a" is that when you take moments about the usual point for the lever, the friction force (unusally) will not have zero moment :wink:

start again :smile:
 
Ah...got it... So I completely forgot the force Fb in my FBD! That's why I need that 0.05! Thanks :D
 
There it is...just for the record
 

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There it is...just for the record

Mazeltov! :biggrin:
 

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