Brush DC Motor Science Project HELP

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a brushed DC motor for a Grade 11 physics science project. Participants share their experiences and suggestions on how to create effective brushes and improve electrical contact in the motor assembly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial construction of the motor, including the armature and commutator, and expresses difficulty in achieving effective brushes.
  • Another participant suggests ensuring good electrical contact by using stripped copper wire ends held against the copper track with spring force, and recommends making the contact surfaces shiny.
  • A different participant proposes using a higher voltage power source, noting that while it may not be efficient, it could help in this context.
  • One suggestion involves using brushes from an old synchronous motor for better contact and reliability, highlighting the importance of electrical insulation between commutator parts.
  • Another participant advises cutting copper sheets into multiple fingers to increase contact points, addressing the issue of high resistance due to limited contact area.
  • There is a recommendation to use the braided outer screen of coaxial cable for making brushes.
  • One participant warns that brushes should not contact both halves of the commutator simultaneously to maintain efficiency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and suggestions regarding the construction of brushes and achieving effective electrical contact. There is no consensus on a single best approach, as various methods are proposed and discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific techniques and materials, but the discussion does not resolve the effectiveness of each proposed method or the underlying assumptions about the motor's design.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and hobbyists interested in building brushed DC motors, as well as those seeking practical advice on electrical contact in motor design.

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So I have a Gr 11 Physics Science project. I need to build a Brushed DC motor.

I already build an armature with coils. I have a copper commutator and copper are connected to it. Lastly, I placed electric tape on the wood body

The problem is that I don't know how to make an effective Brush Motor. I tried sheering a copper wire and using the end of it as a brush, but it had too much resistance.

I also tried 2 copper sheets but that had even more resistance. Someone please help!

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I take it the copper track does not go all the way around... it's broken in two places right?

You want anything with a good electrical contact - I've used copper-wire with the insulation stripped from the ends - bent so they are held tightly against (in your case) the copper track by spring force ... use the sides of the ends of the wire rather than the tips, and use an abrasive to make the sides shiny. Try holding the wires so the "brush" ends press hard against the track.

If you hit the end of thick wire with a hammer you can flatten it out - or you can use a braided copper wire and frey the ends out in a literal brush.
 
Use a higher voltage power source. It not a very efficient solution, but it doesn't look like maximum efficiency is really one of your objectives ;-)
 
If you can use some manufactured parts maybe you could just take an old synchronous motor (the one with commutator and windings on the rotor part as well) and use the brushes from that motor on your copper two side commutator. That would be better , safer and easier then trying to stick two naked wires to a copper commutator , as I believe the wires would scratch and destroy your commutator pretty fast also the brushes would have better electrical contact and more reliable operation.
Also the brushes from commercial motors have springs inside them which push them close for better contact.
Yes Simon asked that one is important are your commutator really electrically insulated the two parts as to each parts goes to it's winding.

Sorry if you already know this but sometimes pointing out the simple things helps to not forget about them.
 
Thanks for the advice, Ill keep at it!
 
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BizzPhizz said:
I also tried 2 copper sheets but that had even more resistance. Someone please help!

Use the copper sheet, but get some scissors and cut the end into about 10 or 15 fingers, each about 1/2 inch long.

The reason the copper sheet had high resistance is because it is probably only making contact is one spot. They are called "brushes" for a reason. The idea is to make sure there are lots of points of contact.
 
Perhaps try making brushes from the braided outer screen of a coax cable?
 
Just make sure that each brush leaves off contacting one half of the commutator before it makes contact with the other half of the commutator.
Otherwise, your machine's efficiency will nosedive.
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Thanks to all of you!

It works now!

Here's the link!

 
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