Building a 24V AC and 0-30V DC Power Supply: Tips and References

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The discussion revolves around building a power supply that provides both 24V AC and a variable 0-30V DC output. Participants explore design considerations, safety measures, and technical challenges associated with combining AC and DC power supply circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster seeks references and schematics for safely using a 24V AC output from a transformer to create both AC and DC power supplies.
  • One participant suggests fusing the 24VAC output and recommends obtaining the fuse rating from the transformer specifications.
  • Another participant calculates that the peak amplitude of the 24V AC signal is approximately 33.94V, indicating that rectifying this should yield sufficient voltage for the DC output.
  • A later reply notes potential issues with voltage regulation at high DC output, explaining that the transformer may output higher voltage at low current and that regulation may suffer due to the nature of capacitor filtering.
  • One participant proposes experimenting with a choke input filter to improve regulation, albeit at the cost of slightly lower voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the challenges of achieving stable DC output from the AC supply, with no consensus on the best approach or design. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal methods for achieving the desired power supply specifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of transformer specifications and the effects of load on voltage output, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on the overall design.

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Hello people!

I've been absent from this forum for quite a while. But now I return with questions regarding a little project I have to do.

So basically I have to make a AC and DC power supply. I need 24 V AC output and 0-30 V DC power supply.

I have a transformer(I think its 220V/24V) which i plan on using to build such power supply

I have some circuits in mind, but I have no clue how to use 24V AC safely from transformer. So basically I would have to combine 2 different designs for DC and AC. I found some projects for 0-30 V variable but they don't cover AC supply.


Can anybody give me some references or schematics or pointers on how I can make such power supply?

Thanks
 
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Just fuse the 24VAC. Get the fuse rating from the transformer specs.

You will have to jump through some hoops to get 30VDC from a 24VAC signal. It will not be as easy as just using a rectifier and regulators.
 
Well i figure if 24V AC is a effective value and the amplitude of the sine wave I am rectifying is 24\cdot \sqrt{2} then that comes to about 33.94 V sine wave amplitude. If i rectify that I should get enough voltage for DC.

So a fuse will do a trick? Ok, I am gone shoppin!
 
You'll notice poor regulation at high DC output

but you should be able to get your 30 volts at not much current, maybe even 32 or 33
because the transformer is rated 24 volts at substantial current, probably makes 25 or 26 at zero current

reason regulation is bad is this:
With capacitor filter the current is delivered in big gulps near sinewave peak, so voltage drop along transformer's resistance is more than you'd expect. So peaks get 'flattened' as current goes up.

We learn best by doing and figuring out the complications that arise along the way ...

Experiment with a choke(inductive) input filter if you can - regulation will be better but voltage a bit lower...

old jim
 

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