Building a Precision CNC Router

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around building a precision CNC router, focusing on achieving high accuracy and quality without significant financial investment. Participants explore various mechanical systems, location tracking methods, and the implications of different drive mechanisms on precision.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in building a CNC router primarily for precision, questioning the effectiveness of chain and sprocket systems for achieving high accuracy.
  • Another participant suggests that using microstepper or servo motors with linear screw drives may offer better accuracy and repeatability compared to chain drives, citing their experience with PCB milling machines.
  • A participant shares their experience retrofitting a drill-mill with ball screws and servo motors, noting that this setup minimizes backlash and improves repeatability, while also expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of chain and sprocket systems.
  • There is a proposal to incorporate an optical detector for location tracking, with an openness to alternative suggestions.
  • Participants mention the importance of limit switches for maintaining absolute position information, although one participant indicates they do not frequently use them in their setup.
  • Links to additional resources and forums for CNC building are provided, indicating a wealth of information available for enthusiasts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best mechanical systems for achieving precision in CNC routers, with no consensus on the superiority of chain and sprocket versus screw drive systems. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to location tracking and the effectiveness of various drive mechanisms.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations related to backlash in different drive systems and the complexity of implementing feedback mechanisms. There is also mention of varying experiences with limit switches and their necessity in different setups.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in building CNC machines, particularly those focused on precision engineering, mechanical design, and DIY electronics may find this discussion beneficial.

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I am going to build a CNC router. Although that's misleading since I don't nessecarily plan on actually using a router as the main tool. I want to see how precise I can get and what kind of quality I can achieve without spending lots of money. So I have some basic questions. The plans I've seen rely on a chain and sprocket to drive router. Their precision relies on the gear ratio between the linear motion of the gantry and the stepper motor, and the tightness of the chain and sprocket system. Even though the CNC I saw was able to mill PCB boards without any apparent defects, I think precision can be improved.

I want to incorporate a location tracking system. I'm thinking an optical detector and black and white lines across the axises. But I'm open to suggestions, in fact it's why I'm here.
 
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I am going to build a CNC router. Although that's misleading since I don't nessecarily plan on actually using a router as the main tool. I want to see how precise I can get and what kind of quality I can achieve without spending lots of money. So I have some basic questions. The plans I've seen rely on a chain and sprocket to drive router. Their precision relies on the gear ratio between the linear motion of the gantry and the stepper motor, and the tightness of the chain and sprocket system. Even though the CNC I saw was able to mill PCB boards without any apparent defects, I think precision can be improved.

I want to incorporate a location tracking system. I'm thinking an optical detector and black and white lines across the axises. But I'm open to suggestions, in fact it's why I'm here.

The PCB milling machines that I've seen from LPKF use microstepper motors (or maybe servo motors?) and linear screw drives. That would seem to have much less of an accuracy/repeatability issue compared to a chain drive. It only uses end of travel limit switches to keep the absolute position information, I think.
 
I retrofitted my bench-top drill-mill for CNC. Replaced the (old,worn) acme screws with ball screws which have only a few mils of backlash. The screws are driven by servo motors and fairly tight timing belt/gears. I think chain and sprocket might not get tight enough to limit backlash, just a guess though.

Limit switches are handy but I hardly ever run to the end of travel so I skipped them. I have puzzled over the idea of using digital readouts as feedback, but that's a lot of work and programming to get going. Generally, once you've compensated for the backlash issues things are pretty repeatable in the thousandth range.
 

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