Buoyancy Force and Pressure: A Thought Experiment

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The discussion revolves around the concept of buoyancy and pressure in fluids, specifically examining the behavior of a cork submerged at varying depths in water. Participants explore the relationship between buoyant force, pressure, and the conditions under which an object may remain stationary in a fluid.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions necessary for a cork to remain stationary underwater, questioning the relationship between buoyant force and pressure at different depths. They explore the implications of density and external forces acting on the cork.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the nature of buoyant force and pressure. Some have offered insights into the factors affecting buoyancy, while others are reconsidering their assumptions about the forces at play. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is prompting deeper thought on the topic.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of buoyancy in a fluid, with some considering the effects of uniformity in the liquid and the implications of pressure changes with depth. There is an acknowledgment of the non-intuitive nature of the problem, and some participants express uncertainty about their understanding.

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I may be completely out of whack here but this kept me up last night...

Suppose a cork from a wine bottle is taken down to a depth of X metres. Since cork is less dense than water it will obviously float to the surface. I was thinking about manipulating the formulae.

Buoyancy force = Vρg

Pressure = Force/Area [itex]\Rightarrow[/itex] Force = ρghA

Is there a point in the liquid where ρghA = Vρg and the cork remains stationary.

hA = V


My physics teacher said I am completely off track (I'm beginning to agree with her because it's extremely non intuitive) but never gave me a real reason as to why...


Any help appreciated, thanks.
 
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For an object to remain stationary, an external force antiparallel to the buoyant force and equal in magnitude would be required. However, the buoyant force increases with depth, and therefore, delving deeper below the surface only increases the external force required to remain stationary.
 
How does the buoyancy force increase with depth?
 
There are two factors I can think of: temperature as one descends deeper, and the density of the water.
 
What if we assume the liquid is uniform?
 
Then the buoyant force will remain constant. However, you indicated that the object floats; thus, if it floats at point A due to the buoyant force, it does so at point B as well since buoyant force will remain constant.
 
But is there not a greater force pressing down on the cork as it's depth increases
 
Wait, the pressure increases with depth, therefore so does the force, and it acts in all directions... thanks you really made me think about the problem
 

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