Calc 3, area of an ellipsoid slice

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a slice of an ellipsoid, specifically focusing on the implications of the equation and the interpretation of the variables involved. Participants are exploring the relationship between the slice defined by the plane z = c and the ellipsoid's equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss whether the problem is integral in nature and question the interpretation of the equation x² + y²/4 = 0. There is uncertainty about the correct value of c and its implications for the area calculation. Some participants suggest sketching the ellipsoid to aid understanding.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various interpretations and questioning assumptions about the variables and equations involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the standard form of the ellipse and how to derive it from the given equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the meaning of c in the context of the ellipsoid equation and its relationship to the plane z = c. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the equations provided by the instructor and the textbook.

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This isn't homework or anything, I just want to understand the question better.

Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm honestly not sure where to go with this. Is this an integral problem? As I understand it I'm finding the area of a slice, not a volume of the whole ellipsoid.

so z = c which = 3...
the problem then becomes:
x[itex]^{2}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{y^{2}}{4}[/itex] = 0

Does the last description mean that the answer is A= ([itex]\pi[/itex])(1)(2) ?
It doesn't seem like it should be that simple. lol
 
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Allenman said:
This isn't homework or anything, I just want to understand the question better.

Homework Statement


calcproblem.jpg




The Attempt at a Solution



I'm honestly not sure where to go with this. Is this an integral problem? As I understand it I'm finding the area of a slice, not a volume of the whole ellipsoid.

so z = c which = 3...
the problem then becomes:
x[itex]^{2}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{y^{2}}{4}[/itex] = 0

Does the last description mean that the answer is A= ([itex]\pi[/itex])(1)(2) ?
It doesn't seem like it should be that simple. lol
No, because x2 + y2/4 = 0 is not the equation of an ellipse.

Notice that there aren't many points that satisfy this equation.

Have you drawn a sketch of the ellipsoid? A sketch would help illuminate what's going on here.
 
No, it's not an integral problem.

The only real solution for [itex]\displaystyle x^2+\frac{y^2}{4}=0[/itex] is x = ? = y .

Set z = c , then solve for [itex]\displaystyle x^2+\frac{y^2}{4}\,,[/itex] then divide both sides by the right hand side.
 
Where does it say that the plane is z = 3?
 
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But isn't 9 supposed to be c[itex]^{2}[/itex]?

so really I have:
x[itex]^{2}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{y^{2}}{4}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{c^{2}}{c^{2}}[/itex] = 1
which just leads me back to the previous equation where the only x and y values would be zero.
or am I just making a false assumption?

am I supposed to be doing this?
[itex]\frac{c^{2}}{9}[/itex] = 1 - x[itex]^{2}[/itex] - [itex]\frac{y^{2}}{4}[/itex]

c = [itex]\sqrt{\frac{1 - x^{2} - \frac{y^{2}}{4}}{9}}[/itex]

I don't know where i would go from there.The equation my instructor gave us for a ellipsoid is:
[itex]\frac{x^{2}}{a^{2}} + \frac{y^{2}}{b^{2}} + \frac{z^{2}}{c^{2}}[/itex] = d
That's where I got c=3
 
I'm not sure, but I don't think that c as used in this problem is related to the c in your ellipsoid equation. I believe they are using in the equation z = c to mean a plane that is parallel to the x-y plane, that's all.
 
I think you're right Mark. I feel kind of silly for making that assumption. lol.

The book says the answer is:

[itex]\frac{2\pi(9 - c^{2})}{9}[/itex]

I honestly don't see how it got that answer.

Thanks for all the help so far!
 
You're looking for the area of the elliptical cross-section that is cut by the plane z = c.

Follow the directions that SammyS gave back in post #3, substituting c for z in the equation to get

x2 + y2/4 = <something with c in it>

Now divide both sides by what you have on the right side to get this equation into the standard form for an ellipse. You will then be able to pick out a and b, which you can use in your area formula for an ellipse.
 

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