Calculate %age 2nd Harmonic Distortion in Voltage Amplifier

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The discussion revolves around calculating the percentage of second harmonic distortion in a voltage amplifier's output given a specific input. Participants explore the relationship between the input and output voltages, the relevant equations, and the implications of the provided input magnitude.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants state the ideal input-output relationship of the amplifier as vo = 100vi, while the practical relationship is given as vo = vi(98 + 2vi).
  • One participant calculates the fundamental and harmonic components but expresses uncertainty about the relevance of frequency and the input magnitude.
  • Another participant suggests that frequency is irrelevant and emphasizes the need to compare the fundamental and second harmonic amplitudes.
  • There is a discussion about the correct formulation of the output voltage, with some participants attempting to derive the second harmonic from the output equation.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the equation vo = 98 sin(x) + 2 sin(x)^2 and seeks clarification.
  • A later reply corrects a misunderstanding about squaring a coefficient in the equation and provides a revised expression for the output voltage.
  • Participants calculate the fundamental and second harmonic amplitudes, leading to a proposed percentage of harmonic distortion of 1.02% based on their calculations.

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There is no clear consensus on the relevance of the input magnitude or the correct approach to calculating the harmonic distortion, as participants express differing views on these aspects throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note confusion regarding the equations and calculations, particularly around the treatment of the input magnitude and the relationship between the fundamental and harmonic components.

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A voltage amplifier ideally should have the input-output relationship of
vo = 100vi but in practice the relationship is vo = vi(98 + 2vi).
Calculate the %age second harmonic distortion present in the amplifier’s
output for a sinusoidal input of 10 mV r.m.s

% harmonic distortion = amplitude of nth harmonic / amplitude of fundnamental

fundnamental
98*0.01=0.98 v

harmonic
2*2*0.01^2 = 0.004 v%= 0.0408No frequency has been given. So in am unsure.

All help is appreciated.

Thanks
 
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I'm not sure what the question is.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
I'm not sure what the question is.
Calculate the %age second harmonic distortion present in the amplifier’s
output for a sinusoidal input of 10 mV r.m.s
 
topcat123 said:
A voltage amplifier ideally should have the input-output relationship of
vo = 100vi but in practice the relationship is vo = vi(98 + 2vi).
Calculate the %age second harmonic distortion present in the amplifier’s
output for a sinusoidal input of 10 mV r.m.s

% harmonic distortion = amplitude of nth harmonic / amplitude of fundnamental
That part is right.
fundamental
98*0.01=0.98 v
OK
harmonic
2*2*0.01^2 = 0.004 v
No no.
No frequency has been given. So in am unsure.
Frequency is irrelevant. So is the 10mV input magnitude.
You're not comparing fundamental and 2nd harmonic amplitudes. But you must.
Hint: there is a relation in trig between sin2(x) and cos(2x). Use that ...
 
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Thanks for your reply.

sin^2(x) = ½(1 - cos(2x))vo = 98vi + 2vi^2

so vi = sin(x)

vo = 98 sin(x) + 2 sin(x)^2

vo = 98 sin(x) + 4 sin^2 (x)

vo = 98 sin + 2(1 - cos(2x)) = 98 sin + 2 - 2 cos(2x)
 
why have i been provided with the "output for a sinusoidal input of 10 mV r.m.s" if it is irrelevant?
 
topcat123 said:
why have i been provided with the "output for a sinusoidal input of 10 mV r.m.s" if it is irrelevant?
because your instructor wants to see if you're on your toes!
 
topcat123 said:
Thanks for your reply.
vo = 98 sin(x) + 2 sin(x)^2
don't understand what you mean by this equation.
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vo = 98 sin(x) + 4 sin^2 (x)
not quite right
vo = 98 sin + 2(1 - cos(2x)) = 98 sin + 2 - 2 cos(2x)
well, finish the problem after you correct the equation before this one: "harmonic distortion = amplitude of nth harmonic / amplitude of fundnamental".
 
I am a bit stuck

vo=98 sin(x)+(2 sin(x)^2

vo=98 sin(x)+4(1/2(1- cos(2x))

Is this correct
 
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topcat123 said:
I am a bit stuck
vo=98 sin(x)+(2 sin(x)^2
vo=98 sin(x)+4(1/2(1- cos(2x))
Is this correct
No. Why are you squaring the "2" in "vo=98 sin(x)+(2 sin(x)^2?
BTW I assume you meant "vo=98 sin(x)+(2 sin(x))^2"
which is vo=98 sin(x) + 4sin2(x)
which is still wrong; see my first sentence.

In case you need it,
(sin(x))2 is commonly written as sin2(x).
 
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Looked again at my learning material and I don’t need to sq the 2. Don’t know where I got that one.

Vo=98sin(x)+2sin^2(x) =98sin(x)+2(1/2(1-cos(2x))

=1+98sin(x)-1cos(2x)

fundamental = 98mV

second harmonic = 1mV

with a d.c. term of 1mV

So "harmonic distortion = (amplitude of nth harmonic / amplitude of fundamental)x100".

%harmonic distortion= (1/98)x100=1.02%
 
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topcat123 said:
Looked again at my learning material and I don’t need to sq the 2. Don’t know where I got that one.

Vo=98sin(x)+2sin^2(x) =98sin(x)+2(1/2(1-cos(2x))

=1+98sin(x)-1cos(2x)

fundamental = 98mV

second harmonic = 1mV

with a d.c. term of 1mV

So "harmonic distortion = (amplitude of nth harmonic / amplitude of fundamental)x100".

%harmonic distortion= (1/98)x100=1.02%
Very good!
 
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Thank you for all your help..
 
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topcat123 said:
Thank you for all your help..
My pleasure!
 

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