Calculate Frenet Frame for \vec{r}(t)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Frenet frame for the vector function \vec{r}(t)=(2t \cos t, 2t \sin t, 5t) and determining the acceleration in the Frenet frame. Participants mention two methods for solving the problem: converting the vector into arc length parametrization or using formulas for the Frenet frame that do not require unit speed. One user expresses confusion about obtaining \vec{r}(s) and struggles with the calculations, while another suggests looking for resources to understand the first method better. Ultimately, the user finds the information they needed through a quick online search. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying Frenet frame concepts in different contexts.
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Homework Statement



calculate the frenet frame for the vector:
\vec{r}(t)=(2t cost,2tsint,5t)

calculate the acceleration in frenet frame.

Homework Equations


\hat{T}=\frac{dr}{ds}=\frac{\dot{r}}{|\dot{r}|}
\hat{N}=\frac{\frac{dT}{ds}}{|\frac{dT}{ds}|}
\hat{B}=\hat{T}\times \hat{N}

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I'm not too sure how to get to \vec{r}(s)
what I tried is : s=2t \ \ \Rightarrow \vec{r}(s)= s(\cos \frac{s}{2},\sin \frac{s}{2},2.5)
T=\frac{dr}{ds}=s(-\sin \frac{s}{2},\cos \frac{s}{2},0)+(\cos \frac{s}{2},\sin \frac{s}{2},2.5)

which is NOT a unit vector.
if I try use t as the variable it's just becomes a gigantic answer.
 
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There are two ways to solve this problem:

  • The first way is to put r into arclength parametrization. You should have seen several formulas in your course that show how to make r into a curve with unit speed. These formulas use integrals, so are not always handy or solvable, however.
  • The second way is to use formulas for the Frenet frame which do not require the curve to have unit speed. These formulas are a bit more complicated than the usual formulas.

So, look in your course for these things and see if you can do something with it.
 
Thanks.
I know the second way,and I did it like that.
About the first way, can you recommend on a book that show how to do it?
in our course it was only when z=0...

edit: nvm googled it...
I feel ashamed. Thanks!
 
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