Calculate RPM From Pendulum Swing Set

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The discussion revolves around calculating the RPM of a shaft driven by a pendulum swing set. Participants explore the relationship between the pendulum's kinetic energy, swing angle, and the resulting mechanical output. The scope includes theoretical calculations and conceptual design considerations.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating the RPM of a shaft driven by a pendulum, considering factors like mass, length, swing angle, kinetic energy, and torque.
  • Another participant suggests determining the linear speed of the pendulum at its lowest point using energy conservation principles.
  • A rough sketch of the setup is provided to aid in understanding the design.
  • Discussion includes the impact of damping on the pendulum's motion, with one participant assuming minimal damping for simplification.
  • Participants reference the formula for the period of a pendulum and discuss angular velocity and energy conservation equations related to the pendulum's motion.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the shared insights and indicates a background in mechanical engineering.

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Participants generally agree on the basic principles of pendulum motion and energy conservation, but there are varying assumptions regarding damping effects and the specific calculations needed to derive RPM.

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Limitations include assumptions about damping, the need for numerical values for calculations, and the dependency on the specific setup and parameters of the pendulum swing.

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Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, pendulum dynamics, energy conversion systems, and swing set design may find this discussion relevant.

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Pendulum into RPM??

Hi

I'm trying to throw together a concept design for a swing set which can convert kinetic energy into mechanical energy. In short I would like a swing set, using one way roller bearings to drive an output shaft but am unsure where to start.

If I have a mass (m), suspended at a length (L) with a angle of swing (θ), does anyone know how I would get to a point to calculate the RPM of a the shaft.

I am thinking I need to calculate the Kinetic Energy, Time taken for one complete swing (θmax), Torque and RPM?

Any help would be much appeciated. (I havn't included numerical units as they don't yet exisit, I'm trying to get the step by step process in place first)

Thanks

Mike
 
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Can you add a sketch of your setup?
Does it help to determine the (linear) speed of the pendulum at its lowest point? You can get this via energy conservation.
 


View attachment swing.pdf

Here is a rough sketch. Hope it helps a little.

As I say I am trying to work towards an output shaft RPM.

Please note all dimensions etc are ball park.

Thanks

Mike
 


Ah.
If damping from your shaft is not too strong (=> the amplitude difference within one swing is small), you can use the common equations for a pendulum (wikipedia, ...). If damping is significant, the equations get a bit more complicated, and they can depend on the type of damping.
 


I'm assuming minimal damping. I will just use conservative numbers later on.

Are you referring to T=2∏√L/g ?
 


That is one of those formulas.

Angular velocity follows a sine curve:
$$\omega(t)=\omega_{max}\sin(\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}}t) $$
Energy conservation: ##mgl(1-\cos(30°)=\frac{1}{2}m \omega_{max}^2 l^2##
$$\omega_{max}=\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}(2-\sqrt{3})}$$

If you don't care about the instantaneous angular velocity: Each timestep of T, you get 60° rotation of you shaft, which corresponds to one revolution per 6T.
 


Thats brilliant thank you. I will spend some time throwing some numbers into it.

Much appreciated from a Mechanical engineer ha
 

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