Calculate the average force on the side walls of a container

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The discussion centers on calculating the average force on the side walls of a container filled with fluid, specifically addressing the pressure exerted by the fluid at different heights. The correct formula for the force on the side wall is established as F = ρg(h_z)A_y, where ρ is the fluid density, g is the acceleration due to gravity, h_z is the height of the fluid column above the point of interest, and A_y is the area of the side wall. Participants clarify that pressure in a fluid acts equally in all directions and that the pressure at a depth h is given by ρgh, which varies from the top to the bottom of the wall.

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Homework Statement
calculate the average force on the face "y"
Relevant Equations
F = 1/2 rho*g*h*A
Hi All, in the following problem:
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the book solution
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I don't understand why he added the term
$$
\rho g h_{z} A_{y}
$$
shouldn't it just be :
$$
F = 1/2 \rho g h_{y} A_{y}
$$
 
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What would you say the pressure is at height ##h_y## on the x side?
 
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haruspex said:
What would you say the pressure is at height ##h_y## on the x side?
I guess it will be ##\rho g h_{y}## but it will be a downward pressure.
 
patric44 said:
I guess it will be ##\rho g h_{y}## but it will be a downward pressure.
Pressure in a fluid has no direction, which is to say it acts equally in all directions.
 
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haruspex said:
Pressure in a fluid has no direction, which is to say it acts equally in all directions.
OK, so you mean the pressure due to the weight of water contained at the z part (##\rho g h_{z}##) will act also along the right side affecting the area ##A_{y}## hence its force = ##\rho g h_{z} A_{y}##, am I correct in this interpretation.
the confusing thing also is, if I use integration it gives an equation that is the difference between two values but also outputs the correct answer.
 
patric44 said:
OK, so you mean the pressure due to the weight of water contained at the z part (##\rho g h_{z}##) will act also along the right side affecting the area ##A_{y}## hence its force = ##\rho g h_{z} A_{y}##, am I correct in this interpretation.
Yes. The pressure at depth h below the surface is ##\rho gh##, regardless of the route. So on y the pressure varies from ##\rho gh_z## at the top of y to ##\rho gh_x## at the bottom.
patric44 said:
the confusing thing also is, if I use integration it gives an equation that is the difference between two values but also outputs the correct answer.
Would that be involving ##h_x## in the difference instead of ##h_y##? If not, please post the details.
 

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