Calculate the points on an ellipse that have tangents that pass through a point

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The problem involves finding points on the ellipse defined by the equation x^2/100 + y^2/49 = 1, where the tangents at those points pass through a specific external point P(2, 7.7).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the gradient of the ellipse and the gradient of the tangent line through point P. There are attempts to equate these gradients and substitute into the ellipse equation. Some participants suggest using the line equation formula instead of standard tangent equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to manipulate equations and substitute values. Some participants provide guidance on further steps to take, while others express uncertainty about the progress made. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the best approach to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the ellipse equation and the requirement that tangents must pass through a specific point. There is mention of rearranging equations and substituting values, indicating a focus on algebraic manipulation.

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Homework Statement



Find the points on the ellipse x^2/100 + y^2/49 = 1 that have tangents that pass through the point P(2, 7.7)

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The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the gradient of the ellipse which came to dy/dx = -49x/100y
I then calculated the gradient of the tangent that passes through the point P(x,y) on the ellipse as dy/dx = 7.7-y/2-x
I then attempted to make these two equations equal to each other -49x/100y = 7.7-y/2-x and use the equation of the ellipse ie. rearrange for x and substitute but it doesn't seem to be getting anywhere
 
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Try substituting into the line equation formula, as opposed to the generic tangent and normal equations engineered for eclipses.
 
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so by using y-y1=m(x-x1) where m is -49x/100y and y1 is 7.7 and x1 is 2
i get y-7.7=-49x/100y(x-2)
when rearranged that becomes 100y^2-770y=-49x^2+98x i don't think that would help
 
You just haven't gone far enough. What is y^2?
 
y^2 by rearranging the ellipse formula is 49(100-x^2)/100 when i attempt to substitute into 100y^2 - 770y = -49x^2 +98x i am still left with a y
 
So keep going. Use that if a=b then a^2=b^2.
 
thanks i got it
 

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