Calculate the time to reach the floor in seconds

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for an object to fall a distance of 6.01 meters, using principles of energy conservation and motion equations. The initial calculation yielded a time of 1.133 seconds, which was incorrect, with the correct answer being approximately 2.267 seconds. The confusion stemmed from using the final velocity instead of average velocity in the distance-time relationship. Participants emphasized the importance of significant digits in reporting results, noting that precision should match the input data. The methodology for calculating time was confirmed to be correct, highlighting the distinction between average speed and instantaneous velocity in the context of the problem.
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In the figure, a mass of 35.8 kg is attached to a light string that is wrapped around a cylindrical spool of radius 0.25m and moment of inertia 7.14 kg · m2. The spool is suspended from the ceiling, and the mass is then released from rest a distance 6.01 m above the floor. How long does it take to reach the floor in seconds?
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KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf
v = d/t
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r = 0.25m
I = 7.14kgm^2
h = 6.01m

Ei = Ef
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2Iw^2
2mgh = mv^2 + I(v^2/r^2)
2(35.8)(9.81)(6.01) = 35.8v^2 + 114.24v^2
v = 5.304 m/s

v = d/t
5.304 = 6.01/t
t = 1.133

(The correct answer is 2.2673. What did I do wrong?)
 
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LokLe said:
v = d/t
That is the formula for average velocity, but you have calculated the final velocity.
 
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LokLe said:
v = d/t
This equation relates speed to distance and time only if v is the same throughout the interval t. This is not the case here because the speed of the mass changes continuously.
 
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kuruman said:
This equation relates speed to distance and time only if v is the same throughout the interval t. This is not the case here because the speed of the mass changes continuously.
I see. So the answer should be s = 1/2t(v+u)
6.01 = 1/2t(5.304)
t = 2.266s

Thank you for correcting my mistakes
 
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LokLe said:
t = 2.266s
That’s too many significant digits given the precision of the input data.
 
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Orodruin said:
That’s too many significant digits given the precision of the input data.
Do you mean that it is still incorrect?
 
kuruman said:
This equation relates speed to distance and time only if v is the same throughout the interval t.
Or if v means the average velocity.
 
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LokLe said:
Do you mean that it is still incorrect?
It is good practice not to use more significant digits than your input can justify. There is simply not enough precision in the input to claim you know the answer to a precision of a millisecond.

The methodology is correct.
 
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Orodruin said:
It is good practice not to use more significant digits than your input can justify. There is simply not enough precision in the input to claim you know the answer to a precision of a millisecond.

The methodology is correct.
Ok
 
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haruspex said:
Or if v means the average velocity.
Did you mean average speed? In this particular example it doesn't matter, but in general I think that the symbol "d" stands for distance, not displacement, as in the mantra "speed is distance over time."
 
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kuruman said:
Did you mean average speed? In this particular example it doesn't matter, but in general I think that the symbol "d" stands for distance, not displacement, as in the mantra "speed is distance over time."
If d is distance then average speed, if displacement then average velocity.
But my point is that the equation is not limited to constant speed/velocity. It always gives the average, but that can only be supposed to be the same as the instantaneous value if it is constant.
 
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