Calculate the voltage across a resistor using Thevenin's Theorem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the voltage across a resistor using Thevenin's Theorem, particularly in the context of a circuit involving a diode modeled as a switch. Participants are exploring the implications of the diode's state on the circuit analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of determining the diode's state (ON or OFF) to proceed with calculations. There are suggestions to model the diode as a switch and analyze the circuit under different assumptions about its state. Some participants express uncertainty about how to decide the diode's state.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various approaches to analyze the circuit. There is an emphasis on making assumptions to simplify the problem, and some guidance has been provided on how to approach the analysis based on the diode's behavior.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the diode behaves as a simple switch, which introduces specific conditions for the circuit analysis. There is a noted lack of clarity on how to definitively determine the diode's state, which is crucial for progressing in the problem.

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The diode in the next figure is considered ideal (i.e. works as a simple switch, being turned ON when U_D >= 0 and OFF when U_D < 0). What is the voltage U_S across R_S?
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Thevenin's Theorem
I'm thinking I should apply Thevenin's Theorem to find the voltage, but I need to find I_D in order to be able to calculate U_S.
 

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Andrei0408 said:
I need to find I_D in order to be able to calculate U_S.
You have been told that the diode works as a simple switch. So ##U_D = U_S## if the switch is ON -- never mind ##I_D##. Can you decide it is OFF or ON ?

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One way to approach this is to substitute your diode model (a switch and a battery) into the circuit. This model has two switch states that have associated restrictions; no forward voltage across the switch when it's open and no reverse current when its shorted. Then you can just pick one state and analyze the circuit in that configuration to determine when the associated restriction is violated. That is the operating point at which the diode will switch states. You can do it with either "on" or "off" assumption, sometimes one is easier to solve than the other.

This approach is a good way to get "unstuck" when you have complex circuits and you don't know where to start. Just make an assumption and get started, but with the knowledge that you may have guessed wrong, then find out if, or under what conditions, you are right or wrong.
 
BvU said:
You have been told that the diode works as a simple switch. So ##U_D = U_S## if the switch is ON -- never mind ##I_D##. Can you decide it is OFF or ON ?

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I'm not sure how to do that
 
Pick one and see if it leads to an inconsistency
 

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