Calculate Time for Discharging Capacitors

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a capacitor to discharge to a practical zero voltage. Participants explore the mathematical implications of the discharging process and the nature of exponential decay in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for the instantaneous voltage of a discharging capacitor and expresses uncertainty about finding the time to reach zero volts.
  • Another participant clarifies that in exponential processes, the voltage never actually reaches zero, implying that infinite time would be required to do so.
  • Some participants suggest defining a "practical" voltage level to determine a finite discharge time, with common thresholds mentioned, such as 5% and 1% of the initial voltage.
  • There is a reference to the time constants associated with these practical thresholds, noting that approximately 3 time constants correspond to 5% and about 5 time constants to 1% voltage levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a capacitor never fully discharges to zero volts in finite time, but they have differing views on what constitutes a "practical" zero voltage and how to calculate the corresponding discharge time.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of using mathematical models for practical applications, particularly in defining what is considered "practically zero" voltage, which is subjective and varies based on context.

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Hi there,
okay my Question is on discharging capacitors.
the equation for instantanious voltage of a capacitor whilst dischargeing is : v=Vi*e^-t/R*C

However I am not sure how to find the time for a capacitor to completely discharge to zero volts.

When I transpose for t
t=-(R*C)*ln(v/Vi)

and input v as zero (cap has completely discharge) we get an undefined answear.
I havnt studied calculus and am not familiar with the concept of limits.

how would I go about finding the precise time for a capacitor to discharge without using a normalised universal time constant curve to estimate the answear.

thanks in advance
 
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Of course you get a dippy answer. With exponential processes, you Never get to zero. Each interval of RC seconds, the volts decrease by 1/e. You can't get to zero without an infinite value for the time.
Of course, 'as near zero as dammit' would take a very finite time! (Engineer speaking)
 
I understand the voltage will never actually reach absolute zero, however I am after the "practicle" time for the capacitor to reach "practicle" zero voltage.
 
First decide on what is an acceptably low voltage for your purpose and then put it in your formula.
 
Rupturez said:
I understand the voltage will never actually reach absolute zero, however I am after the "practicle" time for the capacitor to reach "practicle" zero voltage.

Hi Ruptures. As sophiecentaur has pointed out, it is the nature of the (negative) exponential function that it never reaches precisely zero in any finite time. A "practical" time depends upon just how close to zero you consider "practically zero", but two common choices are

- 5%, which takes almost exactly 3 time constants, and

- 1%, which takes approximately 5 times constants.
 
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Ahh 5 time constants that rings a bell. thanks uart
 

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