Calculate Volume Using Multiple Integration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a region defined by a plane and a circular boundary in the xy-plane. The original poster attempts to use polar coordinates for the integration but expresses confusion regarding the limits of integration and the setup of the circular boundary.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of polar coordinates and the integration setup, questioning the appropriate limits for integration. There is also a focus on understanding the circular boundary defined by the equation x² + (y²) = 2y and how to manipulate it for integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the integration limits and suggested checking for numerical errors in calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct setup for the problem, with multiple interpretations of the circular boundary being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equation for the circle may require adjustments for proper integration, and there is mention of the need to consider the full circular region rather than just half. The original poster's assignment program indicates a discrepancy in the calculated volume, prompting further investigation.

JaysFan31
Compute the volume of the region under the plane z=2x+3y+30 and over the region in the xy plane bounded by the circle (x^2)+(y^2)=2y.

I tried using polar coordinates, but I have no idea what the appropriate range of theta would be. I'm also confused with the 2y as part of the circle equation. Any help with the answer would be appreciated.
 
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Can you post what you've done till now? It will be easier for us to spot the error and help you.
 
For the 2y:

x2 + (y2-2y + c) = c

Choose your constant c such that the (y2-2y + c) term is a perfect square
 
Ok. Bear with me with all the typing of integrals.

I tried polar coordinates:

z=2rcos(theta)+3rsin(theta)+30

Not sure about the regions of integration but I must be wrong because I keep getting the wrong answer.

I integrated (2rcos(theta)+3rsin(theta)+30)rdrdtheta
The bounds I used were 0 to 2sin(theta) for dr
0 to pi for dtheta

I get something like 103 for the volume, but my assignment program is telling me that's wrong.

Thanks.
 
JaysFan31 said:
Ok. Bear with me with all the typing of integrals.

I tried polar coordinates:

z=2rcos(theta)+3rsin(theta)+30

Not sure about the regions of integration but I must be wrong because I keep getting the wrong answer.

I integrated (2rcos(theta)+3rsin(theta)+30)rdrdtheta

Right till here.
You have to find the limits for
[tex]\int \int (2r \cos \theta + 3r \sin \theta + 30) r dr d\theta[/tex]

(Click on the LaTeX graphic to see the code. Also, read https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997" tutorial for more.)

The bounds I used were 0 to 2sin(theta) for dr
0 to pi for dtheta

I think you've found your limits of integration correctly. Did you check if you made a numerical error in evaluating the integral?
 
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[itex]x^2+ y^2= 2y[/itex] is a circle with radius 1 and center at (0, 1).
It might be a good idea to shift the axes to the center of the circle by replacing y in z= 2x+ 3y+ 30 by y-1: i.e. use z= 2x+ 3y- 3+ 30= 2x+ 3y+ 27. And [itex]\theta[/itex] going from 0 to [itex]\pi[/itex] only goes around half the circle- you have to use 0 to [itex]2\pi[/itex].
 

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