Calculating Acceleration of Block on Inclined Plane with Applied Force

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of a block sliding down an inclined plane with given variables, including an applied force and friction. The equations of motion are set up correctly, with the normal force influenced by both the block's weight and the applied force. There is clarification that the mass in the denominator does not drop out because the applied force is independent of mass, unlike the normal force, which is proportional to it. Participants emphasize that the acceleration will change significantly with varying mass due to the applied force's constant value. Overall, the calculations and reasoning presented are validated, confirming the approach is sound.
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A block slides down an inclined plane, here are the variables:

theta of incline = 37 degrees
mass of block = 10 kg
coefficient of kinetic friction = .500
applied force on block perpendicular to plane = 20N

\sum x = mgsin(theta) - fk = ma

\sum y = (20N + mgcos(theta)) - n = 0


n = 20N + mgcos(theta) = 98.3N
fk = \mu*n

I need to find acceleration of the block. Here is how I'm currently doing
it and I would like to know if this is correct.

solving for a in the first equation gives
a = mgsin(theta) - \muk*n / m

What I'm wondering is if the mass in the denominator is supposed to drop out?
 
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hi siderealtime! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a mu: µ and a theta: θ and a sigma: ∑ and a degree: ° :wink:)

yes, that looks fine :smile:

(and the m won't drop out, because the 20N in this case isn't proportional to m)
 
Your normal force will certainly depend on mass, so it should cancel out.
 
Ugh, which is it, these both seem to make sense. Would anyone care to elaborate on how the division by m would go away or not?
 
hi siderealtime! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)

xerxes is thinking of the usual normal force, which is proportional to m

but this 20N is an applied force, perhaps from something like a jet, whose value does not depend on m

(it would be different if say there was a 20N weight on top of the mass, which would contribute to the RHS of F = ma, but even then of course the weight would be vertical and not normal, so the proportions still wouldn't be preserved)

making m very large, for example, would make the 20N insignificant by comparison, and would considerably alter the acceleration :wink:
 
Thank you very much, Tim.
 
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