Calculating Age of Fossil Using 14C/12C Ratio

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The discussion centers on calculating the age of a fossil using the 14C/12C ratio, with a measured ratio of 6.1 x 10^-13 and a known half-life of 14C at approximately 5760 years. The calculations yield ages of 5451 years and 5376 years based on different half-life values, raising confusion about whether the results should exceed the half-life. Participants clarify that the decay calculations are valid and emphasize that the original amount of 14C is not necessary for determining age, as the ratio provides sufficient information. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding radioactive decay and the relevance of ratios over absolute quantities in age determination. Overall, the calculations and reasoning presented are mostly correct, though some participants suggest refining the approach for clarity.
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Homework Statement



Determine how old is a fossile where a 14C/12C ratio of 6.1 x 10^-13 is measured. 14C desintegration has a half-life of 5760 +- 40 years and proportion 14C/12C in living tissue is 1.17 x 10^-12. Determine the error in your calculation.

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Radioactive decay equation N=N0 exp(-kt/T)


The Attempt at a Solution



If N0= 1.17x10^-12
N = 6.1x10^-13
k= 0.693
T = 5800 or 5720

Solving in the equation gives

t= 5451 years for 5800 half-life and
t= 5376 years for 5720 half-life.

But inst supposed to be more years than the half-life of 14C?
I don't understand please help me.
 
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element1945 said:
But inst supposed to be more years than the half-life of 14C?

Why? Please elaborate.

What percentage of the original 14C is left in the sample?
 
Ok in the problem there's no data for 14C left in the sample. the only facts are the ratio in the sample: 6.1x10^-13, and the ratio of a living tissue: 1.17x10^-12. how to i calculate the 14C left in the sample? and there's the half-life...there are no other facts :(
 
do the ages that i calculate are correct?
 
Imagine you have 1 mole of carbon in the sample. From given ratios, how many moles of 14C should be present in this amount of carbon in living tissue? How many moles will be present in the 1 mole of carbon from the fossil?

Ages look OK, although you have probably used rounded down k for calculations, thus my results are about a 1 or 2 years higher.
 
The moles of 14C in the living tissue are

(1.17 atoms 14C / 6.023x10^23 atoms) x 1 mol = 1.94x10^-24 mol

I am correct?
 
element1945 said:
The moles of 14C in the living tissue are

(1.17 atoms 14C / 6.023x10^23 atoms) x 1 mol = 1.94x10^-24 mol

I am correct?
Wrong track - Avogadro number etc. irrelevant. You are given what something - it almost doesn't matter what it is - is now i.e. starts off as, what it has decayed to in a sample, and the time it takes it to decay to half what of whatever it started as. At least a ballpark for the object's age you should be able to tell us straight off. Tell us. It might jog you mind for what you have to do for more refined calculation.
 
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epenguin said:
Wrong track - Avogadro number etc. irrelevant.

While it is irrelevant, starting with known quantity often helps to understand what is going on. In the end Avogadro number will cancel out, but for many beginners it is much easier to compare well defined amounts of substance, than some abstract percentages and/or proportions.

Still, element1945 - you are wrong. You are told that

\frac {number of ^{14}C atoms} {number of ^{12}C atoms} = 1.17*10^{-12}
 
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