Calculating Applied Torque for a Grinding Wheel

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The problem involves calculating the applied torque for a grinding wheel, which is modeled as a uniform cylinder. The original poster provides information about the wheel's dimensions and mass, as well as its moment of inertia. The task includes determining the torque required to accelerate the wheel from rest to a specified rotational speed within a given time frame, while also considering the deceleration phase.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied torque, net torque, and frictional torque. There is an exploration of how to interpret the results of the calculations for both acceleration and deceleration phases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to relate the calculated torques to find the applied torque. There is recognition of the need to consider both the net torque and the frictional torque in the calculations. The discussion reflects a productive exchange of ideas, with some clarification provided regarding the arithmetic and interpretation of the results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, including the specific time frames for acceleration and deceleration, and the need to account for frictional effects in the torque calculations.

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Homework Statement


A grinding wheel is a uniform cylinder with a radius of 10.0 cm and a mass of 0.570 kg.

Calculate its moment of inertia about its center.
2.85 x 10^-3 kg * m^2

Calculate the applied torque needed to accelerate it from rest to 1700 rpm in 4.80s if it is known to slow down from 1700 rpm to rest in 57.0s .

Homework Equations



I = 1/2 Mr^2
ω final - ω initial / t = α
τ = Iα

The Attempt at a Solution



1700 rpm = 178.02 rad./s
τ = Iα

τ = (2.85 * 10^-3 kg * m^2)(37.0815 rad./s^2) = 0.1056 N*m (Accelerating from rest to 1700 rpm in 4.80 s)

τ = (2.85*10^-3 kg * m^2)(-3.123 rad./s^2) = -0.00890 N*m (Decelerating from 1700 rpm to rest in 57.0s)

I have these two torques and I'm unsure of what to do with them.
 
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The second bit of info about the slowing down tells you what the frictional torque is. The first bit of info about speeding up tells you what NET torque you need to achieve that acceleration. So, given that frictional torque, what must the *applied* torque be in order to produce the net torque that is required?
 
net τ = the sum of the magnitudes of the two torques I listed. I added them together and got the correct answer of 0.1145 N * m. Thank you!
 
PeachBanana said:
net τ = the sum of the magnitudes of the two torques I listed. I added them together and got the correct answer of 0.1145 N * m. Thank you!

Actually, it's

τnet = τapp + τfric

The two that you have are net and frictional. It's applied that you're trying to solve for:

τnet - τfric = τapp

However, since the frictional torque is negative, when you subtract it, it's the same as adding its magnitude. That's why adding the two torques gave you the right answer.

So your arithmetic was right, it was just your interpretation that was a bit off.
 
Oops. Thank you for correcting me.
 

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