Calculating Average Speed: Solving the v=8sin2t+3cos2t Equation

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The problem involves calculating the average speed of a particle given its speed function, v=8sin2t+3cos2t, over the time interval from 0 to 1 second. The discussion centers on finding the total distance traveled and the average speed during this interval.

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  • Participants discuss the need for an attempt at a solution and the proper use of the homework template. There is a debate regarding the application of the average value formula in integration and why a division by 2 is suggested in the context of average speed. Some participants question the correctness of the provided solutions and the assumptions behind them.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the average speed calculation and questioning the reasoning behind specific steps in the solution process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the average value formula, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There are constraints regarding the need to show work and follow forum rules for homework help. Participants are also navigating potential misunderstandings related to the problem's setup and the implications of the speed function.

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Hello,
I was wondering if someone out there could help me. The question:

The speed, v metres per second, of a particle is given as v=8sin2t+3cos2t
where t is in seconds.
i) Find the total distance traveled in the time interval 0≤t≤1
ii) Find the average speed over this time interval.
 
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Hello Nicola, :welcome:

This looks an awul lot like homework, and for that PF has a dedicated forum. With some rules: you need to show an attempt at solution and to use the template:

Homework Statement


The speed, v metres per second, of a particle is given as v=8sin2t+3cos2t
where t is in seconds.
i) Find the total distance traveled in the time interval 0≤t≤1
ii) Find the average speed over this time interval.​

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


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Your turn! Help is on the way :smile:
 
BvU said:
Hello Nicola, :welcome:

This looks an awul lot like homework, and for that PF has a dedicated forum. With some rules: you need to show an attempt at solution and to use the template:

Homework Statement


The speed, v metres per second, of a particle is given as v=8sin2t+3cos2t
where t is in seconds.
i) Find the total distance traveled in the time interval 0≤t≤1
ii) Find the average speed over this time interval.​

Homework Equations


...

The Attempt at a Solution


...
Your turn! Help is on the way :smile:

Here are the solutions:
 
Hi,

Believe it or not I am a teacher ! How embarrassing haha!
We are having a debate about the solution to this question!
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I do not understand why the solution divides by 2 if you use the average value formula in integration to find average speed. If you substitute in values between 0 and 1 then the speed never goes above 3 point something so average speed can not be 7.03 but why divide by 2?
 
Speed never goes below 3. Note that $$ 8\sin(2t)+3\cos(2t) = \sqrt{73} \; \sin (2t+\phi) \quad {\rm \ with \ \ } \cos\phi = {8\over \sqrt{73}} $$

The division by 2 is a mistake by the author of the book.

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Hi,

Thank you. You may be able to help with one other question.

Find the general solution solution of the equation sin2x=-√3/2 and use it to find all the solutions for 0°≤x≤360°.

The solutions say that the answers are 120°,150°,300°,330°. I think that the solution set should be 0°≤2x≤360° for these to be the answers and that the answers should only be 120° and 150°.

Thank you for your help.
Nicola
 
Nicola Sterritt said:
Hi,

Thank you. You may be able to help with one other question.

Find the general solution solution of the equation sin2x=-√3/2 and use it to find all the solutions for 0°≤x≤360°.

The solutions say that the answers are 120°,150°,300°,330°. I think that the solution set should be 0°≤2x≤360° for these to be the answers and that the answers should only be 120° and 150°.

Thank you for your help.
Nicola
The solutions 120°,150°,300°,330° seem correct. These angles all lie between 0° and 360° and the sine of twice each of these angles is -√3/2.
 
Sorry, I got confused with another question I was doing. The question was
Find the general solution solution of the equation sin2x=-√3/2 and use it to find all the solutions for 0°≤x≤720°. ...NOT 360 as I had above.

The solutions say that 120°,150°,300° and 330° but I think that the solutions should include 480°, 510°, 660° and 690° also unless the solution set is changed to 0°≤2x≤720° or 0°≤x≤360°
 
Nicola Sterritt said:
Sorry, I got confused with another question I was doing. The question was
Find the general solution solution of the equation sin2x=-√3/2 and use it to find all the solutions for 0°≤x≤720°. ...NOT 360 as I had above.

The solutions say that 120°,150°,300° and 330° but I think that the solutions should include 480°, 510°, 660° and 690° also unless the solution set is changed to 0°≤2x≤720° or 0°≤x≤360°
I agree with you.
 
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