Calculating Circular Arc Length: Radius, Angle, and Unknown Center

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the length of a circular arc defined by three points, where the radius and the angle subtended at the center are known, but the center of the circle is unknown. Participants explore how to determine whether to calculate the length of the major or minor arc based on the position of the center relative to the sector formed by the three points.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where they have three points defining a circular arc, along with the radius and the angle subtended at the center, but they do not know the center of the circle.
  • The same participant expresses confusion about obtaining the correct arc length, noting that sometimes the answer corresponds to the minor arc length, while in other cases, it corresponds to the major arc length.
  • Another participant asks whether the calculation is for the major or minor arc, seeking clarification on the angle subtended by the start and end points.
  • A further reply suggests that the determination of the arc length depends on whether the center of the circle lies within the sector formed by the three points, indicating that the position of the center affects which arc length is needed.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the original problem, suggesting that if the angle subtended is always less than 180 degrees, it should be clear which arc length is required, implying ambiguity in the problem statement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to interpret the angle subtended and its implications for determining the arc length. There is no consensus on how to resolve the ambiguity regarding the major versus minor arc length based on the given information.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the problem statement, particularly regarding the clarity of the angle subtended and the position of the circle's center, which may affect the calculation of the arc length.

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Circular arc--badly stuck

I have a circular arc defined by 3 points [start point, intermediate point an end point].
I know the radius of the circular arc too.
I know the angle subtended by the start and end point at the centre.
I do not know the center of the circle

Now,

I want to calculate the length of the arc using s = r * theta

"r" being the radius and "theta" the angle subtended by the start and end point at the centre.[theta being the smaller included angle]

Now, i get a length "L"

But in some problems my answer is correct value "L" but in some cases the answer i need is 2*pi - L [that corresponding to bigger included angle] but i get "L".This i checked graphically--

Howm to get the correct validation algebraically?
 
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Do you want to calculate the arc length of the major or minor arc?
 
That is the point--I have three points start,intermediate and end--if the centre of the circle is within the sector bounded by the three points I need the major arc length else if the canter of the circle is not within the sector bounded within the 3 points i need minor arc
 
I don't get what you're trying to say here. You said you're given angle subtended by the starting and ending point. Is that angle always <180 degrees? If not, then that means it's clear whether they want the major or minor arc. If it always is smaller than 180, then you have got to check the question to see which arc length they require. They shouldn't be that ambiguous about this.
 

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