Calculating Current for Two-port Resistor Network

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the current ratio in a two-port resistor network connected to a DC supply and a load resistor. Participants explore the implications of the resistor values and configurations, as well as the interpretation of the problem statement.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem involving a resistor network and seeks to find the current ratio, noting difficulties in modeling the network.
  • Another participant suggests that the problem could be approached by assuming a voltage and calculating currents, emphasizing that the ratio is independent of the chosen voltage.
  • A different participant questions whether the proposed network satisfies the conditions of the original problem, pointing out the complexity of equivalent resistances in the circuit.
  • One participant claims to have derived a current ratio of 5:1 based on their interpretation of the problem, providing specific current values from the battery and the load resistor.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the question and inquires about the solvability of a modified version of the problem that refers to equivalent resistance.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the solvability of the modified problem, suggesting that it may lead to multiple answers and commenting on the intentions of educators in framing such questions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of the problem and the validity of proposed solutions. There is no consensus on the correct approach or the implications of changing the problem statement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of equivalent resistances and the potential for misunderstanding the problem's requirements. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the configuration of the resistors and the implications of the proposed modifications to the problem.

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Homework Statement



A network of resistors has a pair of input terminals AB connected to a dc supply and a pair of output terminals CD connected to a load resistor of 120 ohm. The resistances of the network are AC=BD =180 ohm, and AD=BC=80 ohm. Find the ratio of the current in the load resistor to that taken from the supply.

Homework Equations



Kirchoff's Rules

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried to figure out a model network having the same resistance describe in the question but failed. Several other attempts are also in vain. The model answer is 5.
 
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The difficulty is in how the question is asked.

If it was drawn like this, could you solve it?

[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4222062/bridge2.bmp

Assume a voltage that suits you and then work out the currents for that voltage.

You only need the ratio between currents, so this is unaffected by the voltage you choose.
 
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Thanks very much for your idea, vk6kro.

But are you sure the network you draw satisfies the condition given in the question?

Consider the equivalent resistance across AD ( with the 120 ohm resistor disconnected) , it isn't simply equal to 80 ohms, because there is a second branch ( consist of the other three resistors ).

Or have I missed out something... ?

Thanks anyway for your precious time and effort.

Regards
Steven
 
I hadn't thought of those as being the equivalent resistances with the other resistors in parallel. That would be vicious.

Fortunately the person who wrote the question didn't either, because using the above diagram I get 5 times as much current coming out of the battery as flows in the 120 ohm resistor.
83.3 mA from the battery and 16.6 mA in the 120 ohm resistor.

This was the answer you were supposed to get.
 
Okay, so seems that I've misunderstood the question...

Just curious, what if I change the question so that the resistances in the question refers to equivalent resistance? How can I solve this more complicated problem? Or, is it solvable?

Thanks very much, your reply is very helpful.
 
I don't know if you could always solve it if the problem was meant the other way.

I suspect you could get multiple possible answers even if you could solve it.

I think 100% of teachers are genuinely trying to help their students and you would never get a question like that.
 

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