Calculating Distance Between Ships at 3 PM

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At 3 PM, a northbound ship traveling at 12 knots is 5 miles west of a westbound ship moving at 16 knots. The distance between the ships can be calculated using the Pythagorean theorem, leading to a conclusion that the distance is increasing at a rate of 28 knots. Some participants debated the involvement of related rates, with one asserting that the problem does not require them due to the constant speeds of the ships. The calculations confirmed that the rate of distance change is indeed 28 knots, not 20 knots as initially suggested. Overall, the discussion clarified the methods for determining the changing distance between the two ships.
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At 3 PM a ship which is sailing due north at 12 knots(nautical miles/hour) is 5 miles west of a westbound ship which is making 16 knots. a) At what rate is the distance between the ships changing at 3 PM

is it just simply pythagorean theorem of the rates of both ships?
i got the answer as 20 knots

i don't see how related rates would be involved on this
thanks for the help
 
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radtad said:
At 3 PM a ship which is sailing due north at 12 knots(nautical miles/hour) is 5 miles west of a westbound ship which is making 16 knots. a) At what rate is the distance between the ships changing at 3 PM

is it just simply pythagorean theorem of the rates of both ships?
i got the answer as 20 knots

i don't see how related rates would be involved on this
thanks for the help
Let time t=(0) correspond to 3 PM. Then:
{North} = (+y Direction)
{West} = (-x Direction)
{Northbound Boat Position} = {x=(-5 miles), y=(12*t)}
{Westbound Boat Position} = {x=(-16*t), y=(0)}

{Distance Between Boats} = D = sqrt{(Δx)2 + (Δy)2} =
= sqrt{((-5) - (-16*t))2 + ((12*t) - (0))2} =
= sqrt{(16*t - 5)2 + (12*t)2} =
= sqrt{256*t2 - 160*t + 25 + 144*t2} =
= sqrt{400*t2 - 160*t + 25}

The time rate of separation distance change can be determined from:
(dD/dt) = (1/2)*{400*t2 - 160*t + 25}(-1/2)*(800*t - 160)
Thus, at 3 PM {or t=(0)}:
(dD/dt) = (1/2)*{0 - 0 + 25}(-1/2)*(0 - 160) = (1/2)*(25)(-1/2)*(-160)
(dD/dt) = (1/2)*(-160)/5 = (-16 knots)


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Yes, you are correct. The distance between the ships can be calculated using the Pythagorean theorem. At 3 PM, the distance between the ships is 5 miles west and the northbound ship is traveling at 12 knots, while the westbound ship is traveling at 16 knots. This means that the distance between the ships is increasing at a rate of 12 knots + 16 knots = 28 knots. So the rate at which the distance between the ships is changing at 3 PM is 28 knots. This calculation does not involve related rates, as the ships are moving at constant speeds and the distance between them is changing at a constant rate.
 
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