Calculating Earth's Temperature Change from Increased Solar Constant

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The discussion focuses on calculating Earth's temperature change due to a 0.1 W/m2 increase in the solar constant over the past century. Participants clarify the formula for ground temperature, emphasizing the importance of correctly identifying the solar constant value as either old or new. There is confusion about whether to treat the solar constant as a fixed value or a variable, with suggestions to calculate temperature using both the old and new values of solar radiation. Ultimately, the consensus is to increase the old solar constant by 0.1 W/m2 to find the new temperature. This approach aims to provide a clearer understanding of the impact of increased solar radiation on Earth's temperature.
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Homework Statement


Over the last ~100 years, the average solar constant has increased by ~ 0.1 W/m2.
How much would the Earth’s temperature change simply due to this increase in the solar constant?

Homework Equations



[L * (1 – a)] / [4 * e * sigma]) 1/4 = Tground

L is the incoming solar radiation in the earth
a is the albedo
e is the emissitivity
sigma is the boltzman constant[
We showed that a = 0.3, e = 0.6, L= 1350 W/m2, gives us a realistic surface temperature.

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted this by increasing the incoming radiation of the sun by 0.1, so it would be 1350.1, but I think this is wrong because the solar constant is like the constant for emissitivity, so I would think that in some way, I have to calculate the new L which is the incoming radiation of the sun.
 
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TheMathNoob said:

Homework Statement


Over the last ~100 years, the average solar constant has increased by ~ 0.1 W/m2.
How much would the Earth’s temperature change simply due to this increase in the solar constant?

Homework Equations


([L * (1 – a)] / [4 * e * sigma]) 1/4 = Tground

L is the incoming solar radiation in the earth
a is the albedo
e is the emissitivity
sigma is the boltzman constant[
We showed that a = 0.3, e = 0.6, L= 1350 W/m2, gives us a realistic surface temperature.

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted this by increasing the incoming radiation of the sun by 0.1, so it would be 1350.1, but I think this is wrong because the solar constant is like the constant for emissitivity, so I would think that in some way, I have to calculate the new L which is the incoming radiation of the sun.
You would be well advised to edit that post to put the Font size back to normal (Size 4) and remove the Bold-ing.
 
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SammyS said:
You would be well advised to edit that post to put the Font size back to normal (Size 4) and remove the Bold-ing.
Done, now help me please!
 
TheMathNoob said:
Done, now help me please!
Is that 1/4 supposed to be an exponent for part, or all, of that expression?

Also: L is the solar constant.
 
SammyS said:
Is that 1/4 supposed to be an exponent for part, or all, of that expression?

Also: L is the solar constant.
Yes
 
TheMathNoob said:
I think this is wrong because the solar constant is like the constant for emissitivity,
Not sure what you mean. It is not some physical constant. Indeed, it probably should not be called a constant.
 
TheMathNoob said:

Homework Statement


Over the last ~100 years, the average solar constant has increased by ~ 0.1 W/m2.
How much would the Earth’s temperature change simply due to this increase in the solar constant?

Homework Equations



[L * (1 – a)] / [4 * e * sigma]) 1/4 = Tground

L is the incoming solar radiation in the earth
a is the albedo
e is the emissitivity
sigma is the boltzman constant[
We showed that a = 0.3, e = 0.6, L= 1350 W/m2, gives us a realistic surface temperature.
Is this L the "old" or "new" value? In other words is it calculated for the present or 100 years ago? If present subtract the given change, 0.1. Calculate Tground with both old and new values to see how much it has changed.

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I attempted this by increasing the incoming radiation of the sun by 0.1, so it would be 1350.1, but I think this is wrong because the solar constant is like the constant for emissitivity, so I would think that in some way, I have to calculate the new L which is the incoming radiation of the sun.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Is this L the "old" or "new" value? In other words is it calculated for the present or 100 years ago? If present subtract the given change, 0.1. Calculate Tground with both old and new values to see how much it has changed.
In this case, L is old and then we have to calculate the new T by increasing L I think by 0.1
 
TheMathNoob said:
In this case, L is old and then we have to calculate the new T by increasing L I think by 0.1
No.

Just increase the old L value by 0.1 W/m2 .
 
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