Calculating Entropy Change in a Diatomic Gas Sample

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The discussion revolves around calculating the entropy change of a diatomic gas sample as it expands from volume V1 to 2V1 under different conditions: constant pressure, isothermal, adiabatic, and free expansion. The key formula for entropy change is dS = dQ/T, with dQ derived from the first law of thermodynamics. For constant pressure expansion, the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature is highlighted, leading to the conclusion that temperature increases proportionally with volume. The integral of the derived expression for entropy change is suggested to solve the problem for each scenario. The participant ultimately reports successfully figuring out the calculations with assistance.
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My prof gave us a question to take home and examine and review because he had to leave on urgent family matters so as a result we had to teach a chapter to ourselves about thermodynamics. Inside the chapter is a section on Entropy which I am getting really hung up on, but anyways here is the question...

The initial state of a diatomic gas sample is given by P1, V1, n1, and T1.
The gas sample expands from volume V1 to Volume 2V1.
Calculate the entropy change of the gas in terms of the above initial variables and the gas constant R if:
a. The expansion takes place at constant presssure
b. The expansion is Isothermal
c. The expansion is adiabatic
d. The expansion takes place in a repitition of joules free expansion experiment.

I sort of have a but its only halfass so I guess I need help/pointers on any of the parts.
Thanks!
 
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What formula or relationship are you using?
 
SwMarc said:
My prof gave us a question to take home and examine and review because he had to leave on urgent family matters so as a result we had to teach a chapter to ourselves about thermodynamics. Inside the chapter is a section on Entropy which I am getting really hung up on, but anyways here is the question...

The initial state of a diatomic gas sample is given by P1, V1, n1, and T1.
The gas sample expands from volume V1 to Volume 2V1.
Calculate the entropy change of the gas in terms of the above initial variables and the gas constant R if:
a. The expansion takes place at constant presssure
From the relationship P = nRT/V you can see that if P is constant and V increases, T must increase in proportion to V. So the final T = 2T1. Heat must obviously be transferred to the gas.

Entropy change is the heat transfer divided by temperature: dS = dQ/T
From the first law, keeping in mind that P is constant:
dQ = dU + dW = C_vdT + PdV = C_vdT + nRdT = C_pdT

so:
dS = (C_v + nR)dT/T

\Delta S = \int_{T_1}^{T_2} dS = \int_{T_1}^{T_2} (C_v + nR)dT/T

Work out that integral to get the entropy change.

Try to work out parts b, c. and d. using a similar approach.

AM
 
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Thanks for the help I got them figured out now...I hope
 
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