Does work have the same impact on entropy change as heat?

In summary: This will result in the same entropy change as a result of the heat supplied.In summary, the change in entropy for a rigid adiabatic container will be the same whether 15000 J of work is provided by a fan or 15000 J of heat is supplied by removing the insulation. However, heat and work do not initially cause the same entropy change, as work can be provided isentropically while heat increases the entropy more. In the end, if the work/kinetic energy isn't extracted, it will be transformed into heat and result in the same final entropy. To calculate the entropy change, a reversible path between the initial and final thermodynamic equilibrium states must be devised and the integral of dq/T must be calculated
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1. Homework Statement
if a rigid adiabatic container has a fan inside that provides 15000 j of work to an ideal gas inside the container,
does the change in entropy would be the same as if 15000 j of heat are provided to the same rigid container (removing the insulation)?2. Relevant equations
rigid means that the volume of the container is constant ,so is a contant volume process

3. The attempt at a solution
i managed to do the calculations and got the right answer(that is why i don't give so many facts),my doubt is does work changes entropy the same amount as heat does?
 
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In an idealised (reversible) work is/can be provided isentropically (so no entropy increase) - for turbomachinery (to which a fan more less is counted to) the ideal isentropic process is taken to validate the quality of the real process. In a real process, due to losses, part of the work will be transformed into heat and the entropy will increase.

However, the fan provides work to the air and accelerates it, therefore part of the work supplied is stored as kinetic energy in the air. The energy stored as kinetic energy does not contribute to an entropy increase, therefore an amount of energy supplied as heat increases the entropy more than the same amount of energy provided as work. With time due to friction, viscosity and other losses the air will be decelerated and all the kinetic energy is transoformed into heat, resulting in the same rise entropy.

So heat and work do not cause the same entropy change in the first place, only after a certain amount of time, if the work/kinetic energy isn't extracted, friction will transform it into heat, yielding the same final entropy.

Edit: In your case the change of state happens isochorally, that means the process is done along a line of constant volume. With decreasing speed of the air, the state is shifted to higher temperatures and higher entropies on the isochor.
 
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In your example, the heat and the work will result in the same entropy change because entropy depends only on the thermodynamic state of the system (and not how that state was achieved), and, in your example, the initial and final thermodynamic equilibrium states of the system are the same for the work case as for the heat case. To get the entropy change (at least for the work case), what you need to do is devise a reversible path between the initial and final thermodynamic equilibrium states and calculate the integral of dq/T for that path.
 

1. What is entropy?

Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness in a system. It is often described as the amount of energy that is unavailable for work in a system.

2. How does entropy change?

Entropy can change in two ways: through energy exchange or through mixing. When energy is added to a system, its entropy increases. When two substances are mixed, the entropy of the resulting mixture is higher than the sum of the individual substances.

3. What is the relationship between entropy and temperature?

The relationship between entropy and temperature is described by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of a closed system always increases over time. As temperature increases, the entropy of a system also increases, as there is more energy available for the particles to move around and increase disorder.

4. How does entropy relate to the direction of chemical reactions?

In chemical reactions, entropy plays a role in determining the direction in which the reaction will proceed. Generally, reactions that result in an increase in entropy are more likely to occur spontaneously, whereas reactions that decrease entropy are less likely to occur without external energy input.

5. What are some real-life examples of change in entropy?

Some examples of change in entropy in everyday life include ice melting into water (increase in entropy), boiling water (increase in entropy), and a broken glass reforming into a whole glass (decrease in entropy). In all of these examples, energy is either added or removed, resulting in a change in entropy.

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