Calculating Entropy Change in a Diatomic Gas Sample

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The discussion revolves around calculating the entropy change of a diatomic gas sample during various types of expansions. The initial conditions of the gas are defined by pressure, volume, number of moles, and temperature, with the gas expanding from an initial volume to double that volume under different scenarios.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the entropy concept and seeks guidance on multiple expansion scenarios, including constant pressure, isothermal, adiabatic, and free expansion. Participants inquire about the formulas or relationships being utilized in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations for the constant pressure scenario, including relationships between pressure, volume, and temperature. There is acknowledgment of the need to apply similar reasoning to the other parts of the question. The original poster indicates progress in understanding after receiving assistance.

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My prof gave us a question to take home and examine and review because he had to leave on urgent family matters so as a result we had to teach a chapter to ourselves about thermodynamics. Inside the chapter is a section on Entropy which I am getting really hung up on, but anyways here is the question...

The initial state of a diatomic gas sample is given by P1, V1, n1, and T1.
The gas sample expands from volume V1 to Volume 2V1.
Calculate the entropy change of the gas in terms of the above initial variables and the gas constant R if:
a. The expansion takes place at constant presssure
b. The expansion is Isothermal
c. The expansion is adiabatic
d. The expansion takes place in a repitition of joules free expansion experiment.

I sort of have a but its only halfass so I guess I need help/pointers on any of the parts.
Thanks!
 
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What formula or relationship are you using?
 
SwMarc said:
My prof gave us a question to take home and examine and review because he had to leave on urgent family matters so as a result we had to teach a chapter to ourselves about thermodynamics. Inside the chapter is a section on Entropy which I am getting really hung up on, but anyways here is the question...

The initial state of a diatomic gas sample is given by P1, V1, n1, and T1.
The gas sample expands from volume V1 to Volume 2V1.
Calculate the entropy change of the gas in terms of the above initial variables and the gas constant R if:
a. The expansion takes place at constant presssure
From the relationship P = nRT/V you can see that if P is constant and V increases, T must increase in proportion to V. So the final T = 2T1. Heat must obviously be transferred to the gas.

Entropy change is the heat transfer divided by temperature: dS = dQ/T
From the first law, keeping in mind that P is constant:
[itex]dQ = dU + dW = C_vdT + PdV = C_vdT + nRdT = C_pdT[/itex]

so:
[itex]dS = (C_v + nR)dT/T[/itex]

[tex]\Delta S = \int_{T_1}^{T_2} dS = \int_{T_1}^{T_2} (C_v + nR)dT/T[/tex]

Work out that integral to get the entropy change.

Try to work out parts b, c. and d. using a similar approach.

AM
 
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Thanks for the help I got them figured out now...I hope
 

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