Calculating Ethane Pressure and Mass in a Flask

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving ethane gas in a flask, where participants are tasked with determining the final pressure of the gas and the mass remaining after a temperature change. The context includes concepts from thermodynamics and the ideal gas law.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between initial and final pressures and volumes, questioning how to apply the ideal gas law given the changing conditions. There is confusion regarding the volume of gas and its relevance to the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the conditions of the problem, particularly the constancy of volume after the stopcock is closed. This has helped others to better understand the scenario, although not all aspects of the problem have been resolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem's wording and express uncertainty about the relevance of certain details, such as the initial heating phase before the stopcock is closed.

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Hey - I'm doing this question (see below) but I don't have a clue where to start!

A flask with a volume of V, provided with a stopcock, contains ethane gas at a temperature of T_0 and atmospheric pressure p_0. The molar mass of ethane is M. The system is warmed to a temperature of T, with the stopcock open to the atmosphere. The stopcock is then closed, and the flask cooled to its original temperature.

What is the final pressure of the ethane in the flask?

and

How many grams of ethane remain in the flask? Use R for the ideal gas constant.

for the first part i tried relating the initial and final pressures and volumes as a ratio... but that didn't work and since I don't have the volume of the actual gas which changes I can't apply the pV=nCRT equation...
Can someone tell me how to start?

Thanks in advance!
 
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WY said:
Hey - I'm doing this question (see below) but I don't have a clue where to start!

A flask with a volume of V, provided with a stopcock, contains ethane gas at a temperature of T_0 and atmospheric pressure p_0. The molar mass of ethane is M. The system is warmed to a temperature of T, with the stopcock open to the atmosphere. The stopcock is then closed, and the flask cooled to its original temperature.

What is the final pressure of the ethane in the flask?

and

How many grams of ethane remain in the flask? Use R for the ideal gas constant.

for the first part i tried relating the initial and final pressures and volumes as a ratio... but that didn't work and since I don't have the volume of the actual gas which changes I can't apply the pV=nCRT equation...
Can someone tell me how to start?

Thanks in advance!

I don't know about the C in pV=nCRT. The usual representation of the ideal gas law is PV = nRT, where R is a constant. In this problem, the pressure is constant during heating, and the volume of the flask is constant for the whole problem. During heating, PV is constant and you are raising the temperature. What has to change, and how is that change related to the temperature change?
 
Thanks for replying! Sorry I wrote down the wrong equation -_-
but in this problem doesn't the volume of gas change? So why doesn't it effect the way we caluclate it?
 
Nope, the problem essentially starts when the cork is closed, after which the volume is constant. I don't know why they included all that information, its just confusing, they should have just stated that the system started at a certain temperature and dropped.
 
oh I see! thanks for clearing that up now - its all crystal clear now!
 

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