Calculating Force Needed to Pull Bungee Taught

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the force needed to pull a bungee cord taught across a horizontal plane. Participants explore the implications of the cord's physical properties, the effects of gravity, and the potential energy involved in such a scenario. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and practical experiences related to stretching the cord over long distances.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to calculate the necessary force to pull a 1000-foot bungee cord weighing 9 pounds taught across a horizontal plane.
  • Some participants suggest that for an ideal cord, any tension would make it approximately taut, while for a physical cord, more information is needed.
  • There is a claim that achieving an exactly taut cord would require infinite force.
  • Participants discuss the catenary shape that a cord assumes and suggest researching the term for further understanding.
  • One participant expresses concern about the sag observed after stretching the cord over a significant distance and hypothesizes that the cord may snap before being pulled exactly taught.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of considering gravity and suggest creating a force diagram to better understand the situation.
  • There are warnings about the potential dangers of stretching a cord to its limits, referencing accidents involving broken cords.
  • One participant questions the actual problem being solved and suggests that the manufacturer’s specifications may include a safety factor.
  • Another participant argues that achieving a perfectly horizontal cord is mathematically impossible due to the need for vertical support against gravity.
  • Some participants provide calculations regarding the sag of the cord based on its weight and the forces involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the feasibility of pulling the bungee cord taught, the implications of its physical properties, and the mathematical considerations involved. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the core question.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific properties of the cord, assumptions about ideal versus physical behavior, and the unresolved nature of the mathematical steps involved in calculating the forces and sag.

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fascinated said:
I wanted to keep going, but the wife got scared. We were next to a highway.

rbelli1 said:
Please don't try this. When this wire breaks it turns into an unpredictable flying Ginsu knife that could maim or kill someone.

fascinated said:
Private land owner... but who knows.

Okay, this has gone on long enough. There have been several reports of safety concerns in this thread, and not knowing the actual application prevents us from proposing safer alternatives. Thread will remain closed.

@fascinated -- if you need a long straight line, the laser is the way to go. Please keep laser safety considerations in mind, though, to ensure that nobody is exposed to laser light at any level that can cause eye damage.
 
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