Calculating Forces and Torques in a Basic Equilibrium Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the upward forces on two supports of a wooden plank in equilibrium, considering the weights of the plank and a man standing on it. The total weight of the man is 705.6 N and the plank is 411.6 N, with the supports positioned 0.8 meters from each end. The equations for vertical forces and torques are set up, but confusion arises regarding the direction of the force from the left support, which should exert an upward force rather than downward. The calculations for the right support's force yield a result that leads to an incorrect negative value for the left support. Proper application of torque equations and moment arms is emphasized to resolve the discrepancies in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


A sturdy wooden plank, 4 meters in length and having a mass of 42 kg, is rests on 2 supports placed 1.2 meters from each end. Suppose a man of 72 kg stands 1 meter from the right end of the board. What are the upward forces on each board?

|---L----R-M--|

Where L is the left support, R is the right support, and M is the man.

Homework Equations



ΣFy = 0

Στ = 0

τ_R = F_R * .8, τ_L = F_L * .8

Total gap between supports is 1.6 meters.

Weight of man = 705.6 N

Weight of board = 411.6 N

The Attempt at a Solution



Each support is located .8 meters away from the board, and thus I have written out those equations above. I know that the torque produced by the man is equal to his weight, as he is 1 meter away from both the center and the edge of the board, and I am assuming the torque of the board is also equal to its weight. I also know that in problems similar to this, like cantilevers, the force of the left support will actually be downward, instead of upward.

I know that if I have the force of the right support, I can figure out the support of the left. At first, I tried to figure the force of the right support out by adding the torques of the man and board together and then solving for F_R, but in hindsight I am not confident that is the correct way to go about it.
 
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Hello,

As I can see, you have written the ΣFy=0 equation but you have not used it.
 
Matt Armstrong said:
the force of the left support will actually be downward
It's a support. By definition, it can only exert an upward force on the plank.
Matt Armstrong said:
adding the torques of the man and board together and then solving for F_R
Sounds good. Please post your attempt.
DoItForYourself said:
you have written the ΣFy=0 equation but you have not used it.
There being no horizontal forces, there are only two equations available. Doesn't matter whether they are two torque equations or one torque and one linear.
 
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haruspex said:
Sounds good. Please post your attempt.

.8*F_R = T_M + T_B = 705.6 + 411.6 = 1117.2 -> 1117.2/.8 = 1396.5 = F_R

1396.5 + F_L - F_M - F_B = 0, with F_L resulting as -279.3, but it needs to be an upward force?
 
You are aware that, when you calculate moments, you need to multiply by the moment arm, correct?
 
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