Calculating Gibbs Free Energy w/o Standard Entropy

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This discussion focuses on calculating Gibbs Free Energy for reactions involving compounds like 1-Buten-3-yne and Styrene, which lack standard entropy values. Users recommend searching for free energies of formation instead of entropies, citing resources such as Perry's Chemical Engineers' Handbook and TRC Thermodynamic Tables. The conversation highlights the importance of utilizing specific databases and literature to obtain necessary thermodynamic data for accurate calculations.

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This is for my Chemical Engineering class, but it comes down to a thermodynamics question. I need to calculate the gibbs free energy for a few reactions, problem is some of the compounds (1-Buten-3-yne and Styrene) do not have standard entropy values that I can find. Without a standard entropy I cannot calculate the gibbs free energy as a function of temperature. I know they have to be out thre somewhere but I cannot find after extensive googling. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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Try looking for "physical and chemical data" for the families of interest.

I quickly found this one: http://www2.ucdsb.on.ca/tiss/stretton/database/organic_thermo.htm
 
Sweet, that got me Styrene (I was actually previously there when I was looking for 1-Buten-3-yne).

Is there no way to calculate standard entropy knowing the specific heat/heat capacity or enthalpy?

I still can't find 1-Buten-3-yne. All the links are purple!
 
You should really be looking directly for the free energies of formation rather than the entropies of formation. There is a table of free energies of formation in Perry's Chemical Engineers' Handbook. Another possible source is TRC Thermodynamic Tables, Hydrocarbons, Thermodynamics Research Center, Texas A & M, also, Journal of Physical and Chemical Reference Data, 11, supp.2, 1982.
 
Found it through that, thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for!
 

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