Calculating Halley's Comet's Speed at Perihelion

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Halley's Comet's speed at perihelion is being calculated using conservation of energy and momentum principles. The comet's aphelion speed is 11.0 km/s at a distance of 5.7 * 10^12 m from the Sun, while its perihelion distance is 8.4 * 10^10 m. Participants discuss the relevance of mass in the calculations, noting that it cancels out, and express confusion over the use of sine in the equations without given angles. One user attempts to calculate the speed but arrives at an incorrect answer, prompting others to suggest checking the conservation of energy method. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying these principles to determine the comet's speed at perihelion.
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1. Homework Statement

The orbit of Halley's Comet around the Sun is a long thin ellipse. At its aphelion (point farthest from the Sun), the comet is 5.7 * 10^12 m from the Sun and moves with a speed of 11.0 km/s. What is the comet's speed at its perihelion (closest approach to the Sun) where its distance from the Sun is 8.4 * 10^10 m?
_____km/s




2. Homework Equations

PEi+KEi=PEf+KEf

3. The Attempt at a Solution

do the m and g values cancel out when doing this because they are not given? I am totally lost...
 
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Yes, KE = 1/2 m v^2 and PE = M m /r where M is the mass of the sun.
 
Kepler's 2nd Law is equivalent to the conservation of momentum.

r[a]mv[a]sin(x) = r[p]mv[p]sin(x)

As you can see, the mass of the central body is irrelevant and the masses of the comet cancel out.
 
what is the meaning of sin(x) in both of these? it gives no angles
 
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what is the meaning of sin(x) in both of these? it gives no angles

The momentum (mv) is perpendicular to the comet's path. Therefore, the angle between the r position vector and the momentum vector is 90. The sine of 90 is 1.
 
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ok I tried that and got 746.4285 and that is still not the right answer...I don't know what I am doing wrong...
 
Do you get the same answer when you try conservation of energy?
 
Oh, you made another topic. mdk is right, r_a m v_a = r_p m v_p so you must have misinterpreted something he said or done the numbers wrong.
 

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