Calculating Impedance for a Source: Solution Attempt

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The discussion centers on calculating the impedance as seen by the source in a coupled circuit involving mutual inductance. Participants analyze the impedance equations, with one user proposing a solution that results in Ztotal = 2.1 + 0.8i. Clarifications are sought regarding the meanings of j1 and j2, which are identified as mutual and self-inductance, respectively. The conversation emphasizes the importance of referencing relevant equations and methods used in the calculations. Overall, the final results align, confirming the correctness of the impedance calculations.
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Homework Statement


Find the impedance as seen by the source.
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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


-j2||j1 = 2i
Z = 2-j1+j2+(1^2)/(j2+2+j2)
Ztotal = 2.1+0.8i
Is this correct?
 
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What do you understand is meant by the j2 Ω on each side of the transformer? What does the j1 Ω referring to both sides indicate?
 
NascentOxygen said:
What do you understand is meant by the j2 Ω on each side of the transformer? What does the j1 Ω referring to both sides indicate?
Mutual inductance?
 
eehelp150 said:
Mutual inductance?
Well, I don't know the direct formula for finding impedance in such coupled circuits, but you can use mesh analysis on both the sides and find the current on the source side. Source voltage/source current will be the impedance seen by the source.
 
eehelp150 said:

Homework Statement


Find the impedance as seen by the source.
View attachment 109038

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


-j2||j1 = 2i
Z = 2-j1+j2+(1^2)/(j2+2+j2)
Ztotal = 2.1+0.8i
Is this correct?
The final result looks okay, but whether or not your work is correct is hard to say. Since all the values in the circuit are 1's and 2's, they become somewhat anonymous when we can only see digits.

The Relevant equations part of the template is there for a good reason. Could you not have quoted or referenced the equation that you employed?
 
NascentOxygen said:
What do you understand is meant by the j2 Ω on each side of the transformer? What does the j1 Ω referring to both sides indicate?

eehelp150 said:
Mutual inductance?

I asked two questions, and you gave only one answer?
 
NascentOxygen said:
I asked two questions, and you gave only one answer?
j1 is mutual inductance
j2 on each side is the self inductance

gneill said:
The final result looks okay, but whether or not your work is correct is hard to say. Since all the values in the circuit are 1's and 2's, they become somewhat anonymous when we can only see digits.

The Relevant equations part of the template is there for a good reason. Could you not have quoted or referenced the equation that you employed?
Z(total left) + M^2/Z(total right)
Z on left side:2-j1+j2
M=1-> M^2 = 1
-j2||j1 = 2j
Ztotalright = (j2+2+j2)
 
Okay. Now I can state that you've achieved the correct result in a valid manner.

For completeness, if the mutual inductance has impedance ##Z_m = 1j## as it was specified on the circuit diagram, and letting ##Z_p## and ##Z_s## be the total primary and secondary circuit impedances, then you can write:

##Z_in = Z_p - \frac{Z_m^2}{Z_s}##

The "j" of the mutual inductance squares out to -1, cancelling with the "-" of the term.
 
eehelp150 said:

Homework Statement


Find the impedance as seen by the source.
View attachment 109038

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


-j2||j1 = 2i+

Z = 2-j1+j2+(1^2)/(j2+2+j2)
Ztotal = 2.1+0.8i
Is this correct?
I did:
load impedance ZL = (j1 || -j2) + 2 = 2 + j2
for the input impedance to the xfmr including the load: (-7 + j4)/(2 + j4)
then add source impedance Zs = 2 - j1 giving total input impedance = (-7 + j4)/(2 + j4) + 2 - j1 = 2.1 + j0.8
which agrees with your result also. You seem to have come up with a faster way, to your credit!
 

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