Calculating Magnetic Force and Acceleration of a Proton

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic force and acceleration of a proton moving in a magnetic field. The proton's speed, angle with the magnetic field, and the magnetic field strength are provided, prompting participants to explore the relevant physics concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the formula for magnetic force and express uncertainty about how to calculate acceleration in a magnetic field. Questions arise regarding the path of motion and the relevance of gravitational forces. The right-hand rule is mentioned as a method to determine the direction of the magnetic force.

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There is an ongoing exploration of concepts related to magnetic force and acceleration. Some participants suggest that understanding the motion of the proton is crucial, while others express confusion about the implications of the right-hand rule and the role of gravitational forces. No consensus has been reached, but various interpretations and approaches are being considered.

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Participants note the need for clarity on the relationship between magnetic force and acceleration, as well as the potential complexity introduced by three-dimensional motion. There is also mention of the original poster's constraints in finding relevant equations in their notes.

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A proton travels with a speed of 3.00 x 10^6 m/s at an angle of 44.0° with the direction of a magnetic field of 0.730 T in the +y direction.

(a) What are the magnitude of the magnetic force on the proton?
(b) What is its acceleration?

Ok for magnitude of force,

I used F = qvB sinø
= (1.6E-19)(3E6)(.73)sin44
= 2.437 E-13

But I was unable to find an equation for aceleration in a magnetic field in my notes, can anyone help me out?

Thanks
 
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What does the path of the motion look like?
 
lol i have no idea,
but could this be solved just by using Fnet = ma
where Fnet incorporates the magentic force and gravitational force?
 
I doubt you need to include gravitational effects here.
The path of the motion is a hint as to how to find the solution. Any guesses?
 
well i kno initially its moving at the angle of 44˚, but the magnetic field should affect it to move in the positive y direction i think
 
Oh, you need to revisit the right hand rule to determine the direction of the force. This is an important effect for these types of problems.
 
but wouldn't using the RHR in this case introduce the 3rd dimension, because it would be coming out ?
 
?
 
yes, from the cross product.
 
  • #10
so if we know it is coming out, how does it help solve for acceleration?
 
  • #11
So at that point the force is out, does it remain in that direction?
 
  • #12
i assume so
 
  • #13
If the object has a net force acting on it, it will accelerate in that direction. So the velocity changes; remember that the direction of the force is dependent on the direction of the velocity vector, which changes.
 
  • #14
so is there a way/formula to solve for acceleration by knowing this?
 
  • #15
Sorry, if you are looking for me to give you a formula to plug numbers into, I can't help you.
If you understand the motion in your mind's eye, you will recognize the solution (hopefully).
 
  • #16
fyi, i was right,
the equation has to do with fnet = ma
where fnet incorporates magnetic force

so next time if u don't kno wut ur talking about please don't answer a question for sum1... instead of saying ok wut u said might make sense u overcomplicate everything
 
  • #17
My apologies, I was for some reason thinking we were looking for the radius of motion.
My bad :smile:
In my opinion, I do not think that the questions I prompted were useless. I still think you should try to understand the motion of the charged object through the B field. :rolleyes:
 

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