Angle of deviation from a magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the angle of deviation of a proton beam as it travels through a magnetic field within a cylindrical region. The problem involves concepts from electromagnetism, particularly the behavior of charged particles in magnetic fields, and requires determining the angle θ that the beam deviates from its initial direction after exiting the field.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the radius of the circular path of the protons and the angle of deviation. There are attempts to derive expressions for momentum and the time spent in the magnetic field, as well as discussions about the geometry of the situation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided mathematical relationships and attempted to clarify the derivation of the angle θ. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in earlier calculations, and questions remain regarding the correct expressions to use for the path length and momentum.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of constraints related to the small angle approximation and the specific conditions under which the protons are deflected. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity in the definitions and relationships used in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement
Protons of kinetic energy 10^12 eV are injected into a uniform magnetic field of strength
10 Tesla. The magnetic field exists only inside a cylindrical region of diameter 50 cm
and is parallel to the axis of the cylinder. At the point of injection, the proton beam is
directed towards the axis of the cylinder and is perpendicular to it. By the time the beam
exits the magnetic field, it changes its direction by
[Hints: (i) The protons in the beam are ultrarelativistic, i.e., v = c.
(ii) Use the relativistic expressions for energy and momentum
(iii) F = dp/dt]

(a) 2.2e-3 radian
(b) 2.4e-4 radian
(c) 1.0e-2 radian
(d) 1.5e-3 radian
(e) 9.0e-4 radian
Relevant Equations
Relativistic energy equation, E^2 = p^2c^2 + mo^2c^4
Radius of revolution in a perpendicular magnetic field, r = mv/qB
The beam of protons are directed towards the axis of the cylinder, perpendicular to the direction of the field.
While traveling through the cross-section of the cylinder, the proton beam experiences a magnetic force, which tends to move the beam in a circular orbit of the radius given by:

r = mv/qB = (E/c)/qB (Since in E^2 = p^2c^2 + mo^2c^4, given v = c, so rest massmo = 0)

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After leaving the field region, the beam will move tangentially from the point of leaving, as I've made in the diagram, causing a deviation θ from the initial incident direction. The question requires to find the value of θ.
Now I think that mathematically, the angle θ subtanded by the tangent to the arc in the diagram with the initial direction will be the same as the angle θ subtanded by the same arc at the center.
And knowing the value of radius of the arc, r = mv/qB = (E/c)/qB (>>> 25cm), I'm having trouble finding the relation between the length of this arc and the radius of the circle in which this arc is present to get the required value of θ.
Please help !
 
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Say proton gets momentum from Lorentz force p=Ft. t is time the proton is in cylinder area so t=l/v where l is path length and v is speed of proton. Since deflection is rather small ##l=2\pi r## where r is radius of cylinder
The small deviation angle is ##\theta = \frac{p}{P(v)}##
 
anuttarasammyak said:
Say proton gets momentum from Lorentz force p=Ft. t is time the proton is in cylinder area so t=l/v where l is path length and v is speed of proton. Since deflection is rather small l=2πr where r is radius of cylinder
The small deviation angle is
Should that l=2πr be l=2r? Or did I miss something?
 
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You are right. I made a mistake.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
Say proton gets momentum from Lorentz force p=Ft. t is time the proton is in cylinder area so t=l/v where l is path length and v is speed of proton. Since deflection is rather small ##l=2\pi r## where r is radius of cylinder
The small deviation angle is ##\theta = \frac{p}{P(v)}##
Taking p = Ft = (qvB)*(2r/v) = 2rqB
and p(v) = E/c
I am getting θ = 2crqB/E = 0.0015 radian

which is Option - (d)
But how should I derive this - "##\theta = \frac{p}{P(v)}##"
Thanks !
 
Speed or magnitude of momentum does not change during the process. Direction changes with
tan\theta = \frac{p}{P}
 
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