Calculating Power with Solar Cells: Series vs. Parallel

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The discussion revolves around calculating power output from solar cells, specifically comparing configurations of solar cells in series versus parallel. Participants explore the implications of these configurations on voltage, current, and overall power output, while also addressing units of measurement such as watts (W) and watt-hours (Wh).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether having 40 solar cells rated at 2.8 W each results in 112 Wh, expressing uncertainty about how series configuration affects power.
  • Another participant clarifies that power is energy over time and emphasizes that 112 W is not the same as 112 Wh, noting that Wh is a unit of energy.
  • It is stated that placing solar cells in series increases voltage while maintaining the same current, whereas placing them in parallel increases current while maintaining the same voltage.
  • Some participants express confusion about the relationship between W and Wh, with one asking for clarification on why higher voltage is preferred in solar panel configurations.
  • One participant mentions that higher voltage reduces power losses during energy transport due to resistance, referencing the formula for power loss in resistors.
  • Another participant adds that higher voltage minimizes switching losses in the conversion of DC to AC, which is relevant for household solar installations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of power and energy, as well as the effects of series and parallel configurations on voltage and current. However, there remains some uncertainty and debate regarding the practical implications of these configurations, particularly concerning why higher voltage is preferred.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the relationship between watts and watt-hours, indicating a need for clarity on these units. The discussion also highlights assumptions about energy transport losses and the efficiency of solar panel configurations without resolving these complexities.

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So I am trying to figure out how much Wh I would have with these solar cells I have. Each solar cell is rated to have 2.8w. Does this mean if I have 40 of them I would have 112 wh? I am going to be putting the solar cells in series. Does this affect the power? I know adding in series is good because it boost your voltage but.. I am not sure if that affects your power. If it does then, How do i figure out what my power would be?
 
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Power is energy/time. Here it can be simply added up. So with 40 x 2.8 W you have 112 W, not 112 wh .
112 W is 112 Wh per hour. Wh is a practical unit for energy. 1 Wh = 3600 Joule.

Power is simply Voltage x Current. Placing the 40 cells in series you get 40 times the voltage from one cell at the same current.
Placing them parallel you get 40 times the current of one cell at the voltage of one cell for the whole lot.
Product Voltage x Current is same in both cases.
 
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BvU said:
Power is energy/time. Here it can be simply added up. So with 40 x 2.8 W you have 112 W, not 112 wh .
112 W is 112 Wh per hour. Wh is a practical unit for energy. 1 Wh = 3600 Joule.

Power is simply Voltage x Current. Placing the 40 cells in series you get 40 times the voltage from one cell at the same current.
Placing them parallel you get 40 times the current of one cell at the voltage of one cell for the whole lot.
Product Voltage x Current is same in both cases.
Thank you, isn't W and Wh the same thing but just Watt over that hour which gives it practical application? Ok so putting them in series or parallel doesn't effect the power. Interesting. Now I'm wondering why people prefer to use series to obtain higher voltage.
 
brycenrg said:
W and Wh the same thing
Are speed and distance the same thing to you ?
brycenrg said:
Now I'm wondering why people prefer to use parallel to obtain higher voltage
So am I. Any reference ?
 
BvU said:
Are speed and distance the same thing to you ?
So am I. Any reference ?

Whoops, i mean series. Yeah I'm wondering why its better to make a solar panel with high voltage than high current. People prefer to put in series to get the higher voltage out of the system. Maybe it depends on the item?

Oh sorry, so W = Joule/second , Wh = joule? makes sense now. Wh is total energy given out in one hour
 
brycenrg said:
so W = Joule/second
Yes. And therefore Ws = Joule, Wh = 3600 Joule
brycenrg said:
People prefer to put in series to get the higher voltage out of the system
Transporting the energy goes at the cost of losses due to resistance. The higher the voltage and the lower the current, the better: the power dissipated in a resistor is I2 R so 10 A at 0.1 ##\Omega## is 10 W loss. With 10 V and 10 A that is 10 %. With 100 V and 1 A you lose only 0.1% of the same 100 W of generated power.
 
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brycenrg said:
Whoops, i mean series. Yeah I'm wondering why its better to make a solar panel with high voltage than high current.
In addition to BvU's reply which mainly applies to distance transmission of AC power, even in small installations like solar power panels in a home, you minimize switching FET and diode losses when you have a higher working voltage. Solar panel systems need to convert the DC voltages from the panels to 12V or 120Vrms (or whatever AC Mains voltage your household is using), and the switching losses from the FETs or IGBTs and diodes become higher when the voltages are lower.
 
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