Calculating Proton Kinetic Energy in an Electric Field

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The problem involves calculating the final kinetic energy of a proton moving between two parallel metal plates with an applied voltage, focusing on the relationship between electric potential energy and kinetic energy. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and classical mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy, with one suggesting the use of energy conservation. Another participant proposes an alternative approach involving the electric field and equations of motion, prompting further exploration of these methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of energy conservation versus equations of motion, and participants are engaging with each other's suggestions without reaching a consensus on a single method.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the application of equations of motion and energy conservation principles. There is an acknowledgment of the mathematical difficulty associated with different approaches.

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Homework Statement


Two identical parallel metal plates are separated by 8 mm. A voltage of 170V is applied across them. A proton moves in the same direction of electric field between the two plates through a distance of 3mm. If the initial speed of the proton is 1.5 x 105 m/s, what is the final kinetic energy of the proton?

Homework Equations


ΔV = E ΔX
KE = 0.5mv2
ΔPE = -qEΔX

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the proton moves in the same direction of the electric field, the proton gains kinetic energy but lose potential energy. I was thinking that the final kinetic energy:

KEfinal = KEinitial + ΔPE

I have found that ΔPE = -1.02 x 10-17 J

Is this the correct way of solving this problem? Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Looks good to me!

There is, BTW, another approach too: Finding the field, using the field to write the equations of motion via the acceleration of the proton and your given initial conditions, then relating the equations of motion to find speed at your final distance! (This is WAY more difficult mathematically than your approach, but will result in the same answer... I encourage you to try it too!)
 
Thanks for the quick reply.

Finding the field, using the field to write the equations of motion via the acceleration of the proton and your given initial conditions, then relating the equations of motion to find speed at your final distance!

Is this what you meant?
∑F = ma
F = qE
E = ΔV / ΔX
then substitute the value of acceleration a into
vfinal2 = vinitial2 + 2aΔx

then find the KE = 0.5mvfinal2
 
Yes, except I never have this equation memorized :smile: :
tommyhakinen said:
vfinal2 = vinitial2 + 2aΔx

I tend to stick with the "raw" a, v, and x equations for motion... so you have to solve the position equation for time (a quadratic equation), use the time to find final velocity, then use that velocity to find the final kinetic energy. ( even IF you use an online quadratic equation root finder to save time!)

You probably did similar comparisons when you worked with dynamics in gravitational fields in mechanics... and found the same: isn't energy conservation so much nicer than using equation of motion, even though BOTH approaches are valid?
 
Yes. It's the same in mechanics. Thank you very much for the help..
 

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