Calculating Sliding Force for Vacuum Chamber Lid | Design Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the sliding force for a vacuum chamber lid with a diameter of 46mm. The chamber operates under a vacuum, generating a suction force of 168N per chamber, leading to a total force of 1007N for six chambers. The sliding force required to move the lid, factoring in static friction with a Teflon ring, is calculated to be 101N. A miscalculation in determining the cylinder diameter was identified, with the correct radius being approximately 17.9mm instead of the initially calculated 1.26mm. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate calculations in design problems involving vacuum systems.
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Homework Statement


This is not a homework question, but rather a design problem that has been reduced to a simple problem by me.
We have a chamber with a diameter of 46mm with a sliding lid. The chamber has a vacuum (assumed negligible pressure) which sucks the lid down. The lid is required to slide off using the force from a piston and cylinder using the vacuum of the chamber itself (in actual fact it needs to be slightly less than the force required to slide, so that the final opening can be provided by a further application of force). So we need to find the force exherted by the vacuum on the sliding lid, then the static friction from the sliding of the lid, and finally use that to spec the cylinder used to help opening the lid. The lid is only in contact with a ring of teflon (0.1 coef. static friction against the polised steel lid) of ID 46, OD 50 (although, does that matter?) Also, there will be 6 of these chambers with the lids all joined, so the suction force is greater, but will the friction be greater? If my calculations are right, probably not...


Homework Equations


deltaP=F/A, Fmax = coef. static friction x normal force


The Attempt at a Solution


We have a suction force of 168N per chamber, from deltaP * A = F and deltaP is assumed to be 101000Pa, therefore 101000 * (pi*0.0232) =168N
Overall force is then, 6*168N = 1007N
Sliding force required = coef. static friction * Normal force,
Sliding F reqd. = 0.1 * 1007 = 101N

So therefore, rearranging deltaP = F/A and assuming deltaP is again 101000Pa we arrived at a cylinder diameter of 1.26mm - this seems very small, and hard to make!

Hope you can help

Alan
 
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Alan, it seems you got everything right until the last step in finding the radius given the area!

r = sqrt(A/pi)

I got r = 17.9mm using your figures and A = F/deltaP
 
ahh yes I can see my problem now! Ran through the calculation at the end again and I must have continually forgotten to square root! I now get the same
Thanks for the help
Alan
 
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