Calculating Spring and Damping Constants for a Car Suspension System

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The discussion focuses on calculating the spring constant (k) and damping constant (b) for a car suspension system based on given parameters. The initial calculation for k was found to be 38500 N/m, while the damping constant b was incorrectly calculated as 876 kg/s. Participants clarified the relationship between oscillation amplitude and damping, noting that the amplitude decreases by 55% each cycle, leading to a correct calculation of b as 1170 kg/s. The confusion arose from the application of time variables in the damping formula. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the relationship between oscillation cycles and amplitude decay in suspension systems.
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Homework Statement


The suspension system of a 2200 kg automobile "sags" 14 cm when the chassis is placed on it. Also, the oscillation amplitude decreases by 55% each cycle. Estimate the values of (a) the spring constant k and (b) the damping constant b for the spring and shock absorber system of one wheel, assuming each wheel supports 550 kg.

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I found k by making mg=-kx
k=38500 N/m
part B i found it to be 876 kg/s.
However, this answer is wrong.
I'm not sure what's wrong here but the formula I used works with everyone elses example.
e ^ (-bt / 2m) = 55/100
I found T to be 0.751 using T=2pi radical (m/k)
 
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What did you use for t when solving for b?
 
The oscillation damping rate is BY 55% every cycle, hence we have:

x(t+T)=x(t)-0.55\cdot x(t)=0.45\cdot x(t)
 
To NBAJam100: I used the T I found
To Thaakisfox: I don't really understand what you wrote. It looks confusing. Not sure how to apply it.
 
Well you want to find the ratio of the amplitudes between cycles.
At time t let the position be x(t). Let the period of oscillation be T. Then the position after one cycle will be: x(t+T).

But we know the x(t) function, so:

\frac{x(t+T)}{x(t)}=e^{-bT/2m}

But it is also given that the amplitude decreases BY 55% every cycle, so:

x(t+T)=x(t)-0.55x(t)=0.45x(t) \Longrightarrow \frac{x(t+T)}{x(t)}=0.45

Combining these you will get the result...
 
Oh, I see. That makes a lot of sense. Then I just plug it in and I got 1170kg/s. My confusion with the capital and lower t's got me mixed up. Thankyou very much. =]
 
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