Calculating Stability: Finding the Tipping Point of a Table

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To determine how close a 64.0-kg person can sit to the edge of a 26.0-kg table without tipping it over, the forces and torques acting on the table must be analyzed. The equations of equilibrium show that the sum of vertical forces and torques around a pivot point must equal zero. The person’s distance from the edge (x) is a critical variable, and the discussion highlights the need to consider the normal force at the tipping point, which approaches zero. Clarification is provided that while the normal force can be set to a small positive value for calculations, it should not be exactly zero to avoid tipping. Understanding the balance of forces and torques is essential for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



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How close to the edge of the 26.0-kg table shown in the figure (Figure 1) can a 64.0-kg person sit without tipping it over?

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∑F = 0 ∑T = 0

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forces A (left leg) and B (right leg) are the forces from the two legs of the table and x is the distance of the person from the right edge of the table (what i am trying to find)

∑F = A +B - 26g - 64g = 0
= A + B = 90g
= A + B = 882

for the torques I chose leg A as the pivot point

∑T = -(.6)26g + (1.2)B -[(1.7-x)64g] = 0
= -15.6g + 1.2B - (108.8g-x64g) = 0
= -15.6g + 1.2B -108.8g + x64g = 0
= -152.88 +1.2B -1066.24 +627.2x = 0
= 1.2B + 627.2x = 1219.12

I have 2 equations but 3 unknowns. What am I missing here? please help :(
 

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Choosing A as pivot point indicates to me that you are after a value of x in the interval [1.7, 2.2] . At the point of tipping, what can you say about FB ?
 
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Choosing A as pivot point indicates to me that you are after a value of x in the interval [1.7, 2.2] . At the point of tipping, what can you say about FB ?

The point of tipping? When it lifts off the ground? It would become 0 right? because the normal force is no longer pushing back up from the ground? But I thought I was not allowed to set it to 0 because I DONT want the table to tip?
 
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If you don't like the 0, you set it to 10-20 or something, and then take the limit to zero.
As long as it's > 0 no tipping.
How realistic do you want this to be ? The legs don't rest on spike tips, etc, etc.
 
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I wasnt trying to be difficult. I thought about it more and I understand what you are saying now. Thanks.
 
I know. Glad to be able to help.
 
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