Calculating Steel Rope for Cole Mine - Load of 3500 kg at -500m

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The discussion revolves around calculating the necessary section area of a steel rope designed to lift a load of 3500 kg from a depth of -500 m in a coal mine. Participants are exploring the application of stress formulas and the implications of rope length and weight in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the formula for stress as stress = mg / area and questions if calculating the necessary section area involves using A=(pi/4)*d^2.
  • Another participant explains that the steel rope consists of parallel rods, each bearing a portion of the load, and introduces the relationship F = Stress * Area.
  • It is noted that the allowable stress of 60 N/mm² applies to each rod, leading to the equation F(max) = Stress(max) * Area.
  • A participant mentions that the weight of the rope must be considered in the total force calculation, suggesting mass = density * volume = density * area * length.
  • Several participants express confusion about the length of the rope and whether the mass of the rope equals the load it is intended to lift.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to calculate the section area and the number of strands but express uncertainty about the implications of rope length and weight. There is no consensus on how to proceed with the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the mass of the rope relative to the load it will lift, and there are unresolved mathematical steps related to calculating the area and weight of the rope.

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A steel rope in a cole mine should lift a load of 3500 kg from an underground level of -500 m. The rope is made from steel wire rod. The allowed stress in the steel rope is 60 N/mm².
a) Calculate the necessary section area of the rope and the necessary number of wire rod strands in the steel rope when a wire rod diameter of 2,8 mm is used.


smby pls teach me how to do pls

thanx
 
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Let's see some work on your part first.
 
i know the formula stress = mg / area , is "calculate the necessary section area of the rope " means find A=(pi/4)*d^2 ??

while "necessary number of wire rod strands in the steel rope ",i don't know what it means.
 
pls help,i really need to know it
 
anybody knows how to solve this question...
 
Calculate the necessary section area of the rope and the necessary number of wire rod strands in the steel rope when a wire rod diameter of 2,8 mm is used.
Ok, the steel rope is composed of parallel rods. Each rod bears a portion of the load. The allowable stress (60 N/mm²) applys to each rod.

So F = Stress * Area, which means F(max) = Stress(max) * Area

And F(rope) = N * F(rod).

Area(Rope) = N * Area(rod)

Also, the mass (weight) of the rope will contribute to the force (load). So one must calulate the weight of the steel rope, mass = density * volume = density * area * length.
 
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so the length is 500m in the case above??
 
so the length is 500m in the case above??
 
i mean the length of the rope is 500m and is the mass of the rope equals to the load that it is going to lift??i can't find the area and weight of the rope


pls help
thanx
 

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