Calculating Tension in a Massless Cable for a Moon Orbit

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in a massless cable that hypothetically holds the moon in orbit. The initial attempt involved using centripetal acceleration and velocity derived from the moon's orbital period, but the calculations were incorrect due to a misunderstanding of the velocity formula. Participants emphasized the importance of correctly applying the formula for tangential velocity and suggested using gravitational force equations since tension is replacing gravity. Ultimately, the correct approach involves ensuring the right expression for velocity is used in the calculations. The conversation highlights the need for precision in physics calculations, particularly in orbital mechanics.
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Homework Statement


Suppose the moon were held in its orbit not by gravity but by the tension in a massless cable. You are given that the period of the moon's orbit is T = 27.3 days, the mean distance from the Earth to the moon is R = 3.85 x 10^8 m, and the mass of the moon is M = 7.35 x 10^22 kg.

What would the tension in the cable be?

Homework Equations


Centripetal Acceleration = v^2/R

The Attempt at a Solution


Tension = Ma
a = v^2/R
v = 2pi/T

First I concerted the 27.3 days to seconds which is T = 2.358*10^6. Which means that v = 2.6638*10^-6. Then I plugged that in for a, so a = 1.843*10^-20. So then the Tension should be 7.35*10^22 * 1.843*10^-20 which is 1354.67N. But it is saying that is the wrong answer. What did I do wrong?
 
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Take another look at your equation for velocity. It isn't right.
 
thanks.. i figured it out :)

i calculated the angular velocity and got w = 2.66*10^-6 and then multiplied that by R to get the acceleration.
 
No, I mean it doesn't make sense. Velocity is m/s right? Where is the "m" in your equation?! If the moon is moving in a circle, what distance does it go in one revolution?
 
Velocity is the "directional displacement" covered over a period of time. Considering that the direction in this case is perpendicular to the radius vector at all points, you'd have to look a bit closer at v = 2*pi/T...is that really the "directional displacement" (distance in this case) over time?...you're missing a variable.
 
Since the tension is replacing gravity, it must be equal to gravitational force. So you could do F=GMm/d^2 for gravitational force.
 
tony873004 said:
Since the tension is replacing gravity, it must be equal to gravitational force. So you could do F=GMm/d^2 for gravitational force.

You technically could do this if the values they gave you are correct. But it might be best to stick simply to what you were doing earlier. You just need to take into account the right expression for the tangential velocity.
 
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