Calculating the flux through a certain radius (concentric charged spheres)

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The discussion centers on calculating electric flux through a radius of 1.5 meters for concentric charged spheres. Participants clarify the use of symbols and the transition from volume integrals to surface integrals in the context of Gauss's law. The correct formula for electric flux is established as Φ = Q_enc/ε₀, where Q_enc is the enclosed charge and ε₀ is the permittivity of free space. Confusion arises from the reuse of the symbol 'r' and the need to differentiate between various radii in calculations.

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My attempt for the 1st part, when r = 1.5 m
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Could someone confirm my answer?
 
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Hi,

Do you know what a shell is ?
You seem to integrate something from 1 to 1.5 m. What is that ?
Did you notice the dimension of the given charge distributions ? Does that match your ##\rho_v## ?
I also have trouble understanding what your symbols mean. ##\phi = Q## ?

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BvU said:
You seem to integrate something from 1 to 1.5 m. What is that ?
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BvU said:
also have trouble understanding what your symbols mean. ϕ=Q ?
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Sparse with words we are, eh ?
So what is flux in your context ? Units ?
You are asked to calculate the flux through ##r = 1.5## m as a starter in part (a).
falyusuf said:
My attempt for the 1st part, when r = 1.5 m
In post #3 the volume integral you wrote in post #1 is replaced by a surface integral. Good ! And you write $$\phi = \oint \overline D\, \overline{dS} = Q_{enc} =\int \rho_s ds$$ where I must suppose ##D = \varepsilon_0 E## ?

In my book the electric flux in such a nice spherically symmetric case is ##\Phi = EA## with E the electric field strength in Newton/Coulomb and A the area in m2 . In other words, I get $$\Phi = \oint {\overline {D}\over \varepsilon_0}\; \overline{dS} = {Q_{enc}\over \varepsilon_0}$$ and the units are Nm2/C.

We are still in part (a) first question. I agree that ##Q_{enc} = \rho_s \, 4\pi \,r^2## with ##r = 1 m##.
second and third (a) questions remain unanswered ?
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Moving on to part (b) first question:

Your exercise composer makes life difficult by re-using symbol ##r## in r = 1.5 m where ##D## is asked for. We no longer need the ##\varepsilon_0##.
You are smart enough to replace ##r## by ##R## (without explaining:mad:) but then you take ##R= 1 ## m (given) ?

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BvU said:
Sparse with words we are, eh ?
So what is flux in your context ? Units ?
You are asked to calculate the flux through ##r = 1.5## m as a starter in part (a).

In post #3 the volume integral you wrote in post #1 is replaced by a surface integral. Good ! And you write $$\phi = \oint \overline D\, \overline{dS} = Q_{enc} =\int \rho_s ds$$ where I must suppose ##D = \varepsilon_0 E## ?

In my book the electric flux in such a nice spherically symmetric case is ##\Phi = EA## with E the electric field strength in Newton/Coulomb and A the area in m2 . In other words, I get $$\Phi = \oint {\overline {D}\over \varepsilon_0}\; \overline{dS} = {Q_{enc}\over \varepsilon_0}$$ and the units are Nm2/C.

We are still in part (a) first question. I agree that ##Q_{enc} = \rho_s \, 4\pi \,r^2## with ##r = 1 m##.
second and third (a) questions remain unanswered ?
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Moving on to part (b) first question:

Your exercise composer makes life difficult by re-using symbol ##r## in r = 1.5 m where ##D## is asked for. We no longer need the ##\varepsilon_0##.
You are smart enough to replace ##r## by ##R## (without explaining:mad:) but then you take ##R= 1 ## m (given) ?

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I was so confused in using many r's, so I use different symbols, and tried to solve it again. Here's my attempt with my explanation:
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And regarding the following formula:
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This is given in the textbook.
 
If the flux it is the total inside charge you have to calculate D at r=2.5 [or r=0.5] and not at r=1.5
 

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