Calculating the Intersection of Two Cylinders at Right Angle

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The problem involves calculating the volume of the intersection of two quarters of cylinders with radius R that meet at a right angle. The original poster describes the setup in Cartesian coordinates and provides initial volume integrals for each cylindrical section.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up volume integrals for the two cylindrical sections and questions whether they need to subtract the volumes to find the intersection. Other participants share their experiences with similar problems and provide integrals related to volume calculations, raising questions about the integrands and the concept of part volume.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the volume calculations and the reasoning behind the integrands. Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and seeking further explanations about the relationships between the volumes and the geometry involved.

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Homework Statement


Consider two quarters of a cylinder of radius R. What is the volume of a the intersection of a two quarters of two cylinders if the quarters meet at a right angle? Two sides of the bounded region will be rectangular according to this arrangement. (see the diagram when it gets approved)

2. The attempt at a solution
I need to do this in Cartesian coordinates so here goes

let the Z axis be straight up, the X axis out of the page an the Y axis parallel to the page.

For the cylindrical part parallel to the X axis
[tex]V = \int_{0}^{r} dx \int_{0}^{r} \int_{0}^{\sqrt{r^2 - y^2}} dy dz[/tex]

For hte cylindrical parallel to the Y axis
[tex]V = \int_{0}^{r} dy \int_{0}^{r} \int_{0}^{\sqrt{r^2-x^2}} dx dz[/tex]
And the find the volume i need to subtract the above two??
 

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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
I had simular problem once, but I was given that the volume of the whole region was eight times the part volume.

[tex]V = 8 \int_{0}^{r} {(r^2-z^2)}dz[/tex]

[tex]V = 8(r^2z-(z^3/3) |r[/tex]

[tex]V = (16*r^3)/3 units.[/tex]

Hope you figure this one out.
 
danni7070 said:
I had simular problem once, but I was given that the volume of the whole region was eight times the part volume.

[tex]V = 8 \int_{0}^{r} {(r^2-z^2)}dz[/tex]

[tex]V = 8(r^2z-(z^3/3) |r[/tex]

[tex]V = (16*r^3)/3 units.[/tex]

Hope you figure this one out.

dont understand how you got your integrand to be r^2 -z^2?

Adn what do you mean by 8 times part volume?
 
If you "slice" horizontally at height z above the xy-plane then the slice has a side equal to

[tex]{\sqrt{(r^2-z^2)}}[/tex] and a area [tex]A(z) = r^2-z^2[/tex]


The slice is a rectangle with equal size on all sides. (what is it called in english?)

where [tex]a = {\sqrt{r^2-z^2}[/tex] is on side of that rectangle.

But you are wondering why ? I can't really explain it but when you have circular solids you use [tex]{\sqrt(r^2-z^2)}[/tex] where r = radius of the circle.

From the figure you posted these are two "1/4-th" circles

I'm sure someone can explain it better then me here.
 

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