Calculating Thrust & Initial Acceleration of Saturn V

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The discussion focuses on calculating the thrust and initial acceleration of the Saturn V's first stage. The thrust produced by the engines is calculated to be 133,668,000 N. For the initial acceleration, the user initially calculated 12.51 m/s² but incorrectly subtracted gravitational acceleration, leading to an incorrect final value of 2.3 m/s². The correct approach involves using Newton's second law, where the net force is thrust minus the weight of the vehicle. The final acceleration should be derived from the correct formulation of the equation, factoring in the mass of the vehicle and the force of gravity.
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Homework Statement


The first stage of a Saturn V space vehicle
consumes fuel at the rate of 47400 kg/s, with
an exhaust speed of 2820 m/s.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 .
Calculate the thrust produced by these en-
gines.
Answer in units of N.

(part 2 of 2) 10.0 points
Note: You must include the force of gravity.
Find the initial acceleration of the vehicle
on the launch pad if its initial mass is 1.1 ×
107 kg.
Answer in units of m/s2.

Homework Equations



vrel*r= ma = thrust

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first part, I got 133668000 N, which is right. For the second part I divided the answer to the first part by the given mass. I got 12.51 m/s^2. Then to account for the acceleration of gravity, I subtracted 9.81 m/s^2 and got 2.3 m/s^2. However, that's not the correct answer. What am I doing wrong here? Can I not substract accelerations like that? It seems to me, I should be able to-- They're vector quantities acting in opposite directions.
 
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You need to formulate the expression using Newton's 2nd Law. You'd need to divide by the mass of the fuel to get its acceleration.

ma=Thrust-mg, find 'a'.
 
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