Calculating Torque on a Rod: Net Torque, Mass & Distance

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Torque is calculated using the formula T = Fr, where F is the perpendicular force and r is the radius. In the case of a rod with a mass of 5kg, the torque on one side of the fulcrum is greater than the other. To balance the rod with a 3kg weight, the distance from the fulcrum must be determined by considering the net torque, which includes the weight of the rod itself. Understanding the center of gravity is crucial for solving these types of problems, as the torque is generated by the gravitational force acting on the mass of the rod. The concept of "torque of the object itself" is misleading; torque arises from the gravitational force acting on the mass.
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So I've learned that the torque on an object is just: (perpendicular force)(radius) and that has worked well for things like seesaws but it doesn't take into account the torque of the object itself!

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In the picture the rod has a total mass of 5kg, and by definition the torque on the right is greater than that on the left. T=Fr

Now my question is a what distance to the left of the fulcrum (triangle supporting the rod) would I have to put a 3kg weight to balance the rod?? I've tried calculating the net torque Tnet= Iα but have yet to solve this problem. Since the problem is just practice I'm looking for an explanation more so than an answer. Thanks!
 
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Assuming the rod is horizontal, you can calculate the torque from the weight of the part of the rod each side of the fulcrum, as an integral of the torques of small segments, from the fulcrum to the end of the rod on that side.

Torque from weight of a side of length ##L = \int_0^L m g l\,\frac{dl}L##
 
Find out what the 'Centre of Gravity' of a body is . This will help you a lot when doing this sort of problem .
 
Your phrase "torque of the object itself" really does not make any sense. The object, presumably the rod, does not cause any torque; it is just a chunk of mass. The force of gravity on this mass causes a torque, but that is due to gravity, not due to the rod.
 
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